Superlap 2010 Ramblings

[NZM.031]

No chance, unless someone like Bozman was driving the 32/33/34.

The R35's will dominate!!!!

times yes... but all over the shop, squirrely exits, dirty black lines coming precariously close to the wall, sheer noise and theatrics... i think not.

last year i had no idea what times were being done or which car was doing them, and i didnt really care.. clean laps are boring laps

as a spectator, 32/33/34 ftw!!

[NickR33]

yeah corner speed is really the issue, I don't think putting the power down is the problem... I've got a set of those KU36's (allowed in clubsprint?) in 275 and I don't get any wheelspin in anything higher than 1st gear and I'm making just shy of 600hp... even with a fair amount of steering angle in 2nd gear WOT they put it down fine

but I agree, I think it would take a really skilled driver, someone who could hang it right out on the ragged edge and keep the corner speed up... I'm assuming no lightening is allowed in clubsprint class?

But as always harry is spot on, when grip is limited its a modified Evo or just go home... good that there's a rwd class, I miss opposite lock!

[NickR33]

geez did a 35 driver shit in your cereal or something... your not a fan!

remember its early days with 35 tuning... wait til there's 1000hp monsters 4 wheel powersliding around the track;)

[hrd-hr30]

I've got a set of those KU36's (allowed in clubsprint?)

I'm assuming no lightening is allowed in clubsprint class?

yep, KU36 are allowed in clubsprint, but not much lightening:

• Body kits are allowed

• The use of a Carbon or FRP Bonnet is allowed, no other Carbon or FRP use is allowed.

• Rear seats may be removed. (last year you could only do this if you had a cage)

• Stereo may be removed. (last year you couldn't do this)

[badhairdave]

• Stereo may be removed. (last year you couldn't do this)

Sif! I want people to hear my subs before they see my car!

[Beer Baron]

yeah corner speed is really the issue, I don't think putting the power down is the problem... I've got a set of those KU36's (allowed in clubsprint?) in 275 and I don't get any wheelspin in anything higher than 1st gear and I'm making just shy of 600hp... even with a fair amount of steering angle in 2nd gear WOT they put it down fine

but I agree, I think it would take a really skilled driver, someone who could hang it right out on the ragged edge and keep the corner speed up... I'm assuming no lightening is allowed in clubsprint class?

But as always harry is spot on, when grip is limited its a modified Evo or just go home... good that there's a rwd class, I miss opposite lock!

yeah corner speed and braking grip will be the downfall of a GTR with 600hp on roadies. like you said they can still power out of corners pretty happily but the thing just wont have that high speed lateral grip that the lighter better balanced cars will have on the same type of tyres. track GTRs gain a lot from semis.

[Bozman1]

It is true about awd cars having grip, but a well sorted rwd with a good driver will give them a run. The S2000 weighed in just over 1300kgs in 2008 and did ok against the awd's

I would say your 600hp GTR sounds pretty exciting to be honest. With a decent steerer it would give it a shot if everything else is sorted like brakes and the handling department.

[hrd-hr30]

It is true about awd cars having grip, but a well sorted rwd with a good driver will give them a run. The S2000 weighed in just over 1300kgs in 2008 and did ok against the awd's

I would say your 600hp GTR sounds pretty exciting to be honest. With a decent steerer it would give it a shot if everything else is sorted like brakes and the handling department.

yeah, but it was a seriously off its nuts S2000 with you at the wheel and mildly modded EVOs in Clubsprint that day. Take the Boz factor out of it and I doubt it would have been the same story. It kind of skews it a bit.

what do you reckon would be faster at EC on road tyres with you at the wheel - an R35 with a couple of mild mods or that S2000?

[Bozman1]

On road tyres, the R35 for sure.

I suppose my point was that if you have the right combo in a rwd car you could certainly give it a crack as long as there were no gun drivers in R35's lol I think that is what makes this event so appealing. With all of the different car, tyre, driver combo's it is awesome.

EC suits the R35 so much because there is not much stop/start stuff, so the weight of the R35 is not much of a concern compared to a track like Oran GP was.

You should see how fast this little NA Front Drive Civic is that I am planning on running

[nismoman]

My prediction for the taking out the title is the Panspeed RX7. It has done a 55 sec lap of Tsukuba previously, which is blindingly quick.

[Marlin]

Some Clubsprint guys are obviously taking it fairly seriously, I know of one Emo owner who's enlisted Mr Steve God-I-Love-To-Drink-Hard Glenney to pedal his kart.

[badhairdave]

Some Clubsprint guys are obviously taking it fairly seriously, I know of one Emo owner who's enlisted Mr Steve God-I-Love-To-Drink-Hard Glenney to pedal his kart.

Wouldn't that bump it straight into open though?

• All vehicles must have current registration and be driven by the owner of the vehicle. If in the case of company owned vehicles, must produce a written letter from the director of the company showing approval to race the vehicle.

If he hasn't read the rules he's in for a rude shock come race day

[Marlin]

Yeah actually, you're 100% correct.

[hrd-hr30]

Yeah actually, you're 100% correct.

I dunno, there was a HDT owned Commodore in Clubsprint last year driven by a Fujitsu V8 series driver while the owners stood around in the pits...

[Marlin]

Yeah but it's pretty clearly stated in the rules as per above mate

[hrd-hr30]

it was last year too...

[badhairdave]

For company owned vehicles they can pick pretty much anyone provided they are un paid from my understanding (not that there'd be a record of cashies....). There's a bit more in the rule i quoted but it wasn't really relevant to a private owner getting in a gun driver so didn't bother.

[Bozman1]

There is certainly a twist with all of that. Benny, Dave and Harry you are all correct.

I caused crap when I ran in Clubsprint the first year. Two of the cars I am driving this year are company cars and would fit into clubsprint

I am not sure how they can have 2 rules like that, as the HDT Commy was driven by a V8 Fujitsu Driver last year in Clubsprint.

Steve will be fast in anything

[LSX-438]

if you can sign a bit of paper yielding permission for basically anyone to drive the car for you, then the rule is meaningless. may as well not have the rule.

[JAGR33]

times yes... but all over the shop, squirrely exits, dirty black lines coming precariously close to the wall, sheer noise and theatrics... i think not.

last year i had no idea what times were being done or which car was doing them, and i didnt really care.. clean laps are boring laps

as a spectator, 32/33/34 ftw!!

Sounds like this event isn't for you, I'm sure there are heaps of drift events around where you can get your 'fix'.

And far as you having no idea, we won't hold it against you.....

In all seriousness the rules will not cater for everybody. Clubsprint class should be assigned to the weekend club guys that drive their own cars, but how can you prove the driver of the car actually owns it? At the end of the day the people in the know will acknowledge a very quick time from an owner driver, where as a 'hired' driver is expected to go really fast thus not having that 'wow' factor.

Just my 2c.....