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jet.26r

By jet.26r,
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Do you still have Hicas?? If not, the two hardlines that run under the car are perfect for weld on fittings and some dash 8 hose, in my application we use 2 044 pumps via a 4l surge tank to a twin entry fuel rail, sard fuel reg and 1 std line for return.

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Do you still have Hicas?? If not, the two hardlines that run under the car are perfect for weld on fittings and some dash 8 hose, in my application we use 2 044 pumps via a 4l surge tank to a twin entry fuel rail, sard fuel reg and 1 std line for return.

i have the hicas lock kit on my garage floor but what would i need weld on fittings for?? i thought it was just a surgey and two pumps in the boot running lines under the car to the twin entry rail.

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hey guys im up to the stage of getting parts for my fuel system one thing im not sure about is do i use the old feed and return as both feeds to the rail and just run one return back from the reg to the surge tank?

Yes that works, mines like that.

If you do a search on this topic youll see threads with all kinds of into and pics etc

best thing to do for that number IMO is to have 2 x 044 s running from a surge tank with stock pump as a feed. Do a new return line to the surge tank, twin entry rail, easy as

Swiper the Fox Grand Master

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Yes that works, mines like that.

If you do a search on this topic youll see threads with all kinds of into and pics etc

best thing to do for that number IMO is to have 2 x 044 s running from a surge tank with stock pump as a feed. Do a new return line to the surge tank, twin entry rail, easy as

Yes...mines also like that....good for 1000hp at the flywheel.

I use the stock feed and return as feeds and a -6 braided line as a return. 3 Bosch motorsport pumps (one gauze bottomed swimmer pump in tank and two 044's off the surge tank), 1000cc Blitz injectors, GReddy twin entry fuel rail and a Sard regulator.

Works well :P

R31Nismoid Grand Master

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Its good to see you fella's showing the faith. No point trying to re-invent the wheel :P .

Plus the fact it's cheaper and easier just to be a sheep (pity we don't have a emoticon for that, might have to find one :))

:)

Marko R1 Grand Master

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i didn't use the hicas lines for fuel lines instead

2 stainless lines feed and 1 return from gas tank all the way to the front

3 HKS 280L fuel pumps (intank)

2 inside the SARD 1L fuel tank and 1 in OEM fuel tank

aeromotive FRP

Tomei fuel rail

1000CC injectors

that is a flash setup, very nice with the gold fittings, gives it that japanese feel about it - nice gtr btw :P

Beer Baron Grand Master

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yeah the sard surge tanks are good. they are basically like a mini fuel tank with inspection port on the top and you can mount your 'external' pumps inside it which does quieten them down a little and keeps them relatively cool too as they are sitting in fuel. it's a good way to go.

destrukshn Rising Star

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On the topic of fuel pumps, whats the max an 044 can handle?

I've set up my 044 intank pickup on my BNR34, looking to push around 380-400awkw on 2530s.

DiRTgarage, from memory you're making around 402awkw on 98 with 2530?

Any suggestions? Wasn't a lot of details on the article from HPi the GT-R special... haha!

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On the topic of fuel pumps, whats the max an 044 can handle?

I've set up my 044 intank pickup on my BNR34, looking to push around 380-400awkw on 2530s.

DiRTgarage, from memory you're making around 402awkw on 98 with 2530?

Any suggestions? Wasn't a lot of details on the article from HPi the GT-R special... haha!

a single 044 can handle the above quoted power BUT you need to take into consideration the integrity of that setup i.e. what if u get fuel surge which u are gauranteed with that sort of power & assoc. g-force?

what if that pumps fails for any unknown reason, the only warning you might get is 'pop'

also, running 400awkw the engine becomes much more reliant on fuel delivery

in other words, i think u would be mad to run a single fuel pump as many others would agree - walking on egg shells

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destrukshn Rising Star

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With regards to fuel surge, i always keep the tank pretty full. Usually pour when there is about a 1/4 of a tank left. However, i guess i could always keep it above half in worse case scenerio?

If the pump fails, wouldnt the engine just turn off? I recall driving and the hose to my surge tank came lose, i couldnt accelerate no more and the car just gradually turned off? So what kind of pop are you talking about?

I've got 800cc sard injectors, sard fuel rail and sard FPR and its dual entry so i suppose i have done the fuel system oks, however, i used to have a sard surge tank though i had petrol smell in my car, is that common when using surge tanks? I found it quite wierd and couldnt take the air pollution inside the cabin!!!

Marko R1 Grand Master

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i thought u would respond with "i'll keep the tank full" as i has similaar thoughts but then bit the bullet & ran a proper system

more than likely engine will just turn off but if you're pushing that much power you dont want to run lean at all - pop as in engine failure

i know what u mean about petrol smell in the car - ive had that before & apparently it boils down to the type of fuel hose as some are porous? correct me if im wrong but this is what i was told

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