Boost On A Stock Turbo.

[Damo_R34]

ill grab a T51r SPL, ill drop a carton of West End off to ya.

[HSV004]

haha i wish it was that easy, i should have explained it better. whatever parts he has spare. which all seem to be upgrades on my current system.

having an ex drifter for a mate is a bonus.

doesnt help him having expensive taste in alcohol though haha

[dan_the_man]

save up for the PFC.

get it tuned properly.

you'll love it

[Krishy]

before you go upgrading your injectors or turbo you will need an aftermarket engine management system lol....so investing in a PFC or a haltec or what ever is a good idea....some people even get a RB20 ECU remapped to suit a RB25....or they get a VG30 ECU remapped to suit a RB25...speak to Jeff in regards to that as he is the man with the know how

[HSV004]

yeah someone else has reccomended the vg30 ECU path, and i think my mate has one laying around or i may be mistaken. cheers for the help guys

[Krishy]

yeah someone else has reccomended the vg30 ECU path, and i think my mate has one laying around or i may be mistaken. cheers for the help guys

not a bad idea but i would go with the Power FC if i were you mate....got on in the car and its damn brilliant....works a treat and most tuners love them

[HSV004]

only reason im a bit hesitant on the PFC is im unsure if it can be hidden, and if pulled over by cops how easy they are to detect.

but then i guess my car isnt very stealth with the boost controller or height plus im running coilovers.

[Damo_R34]

if you dont have a hand control for the pfc, then the cop would need to pull off the kick panel and know what a "Power FC" is.

[HSV004]

so im guessing just leave the hand controller at home or hide it in a bag in the car or something like that. not entirely sure how they work. but have only heard awesome things from them

[DSTROY]

if you dont have a hand control for the pfc, then the cop would need to pull off the kick panel and know what a "Power FC" is.

Or you can put the standard computer cover on the PFC, then Regency probably wont even know. I know someone who has passed Regency with one

[wnted1]

Bit of topic but i have a auto 34 and i heard the pfc's mess with the transmission or something any ideas as to what i can buy as an alternative to a pfc or if thats even true?

[Damo_R34]

The PowerFC only supports manual cars (excluding Toyota). It will work on an automatic car however it will not handle gear changes and simply keep the throttle nailed during a gear change. This will result in jerky gear changes and stress placed on the gearbox. The factory ECU during a gear change will communicate with the auto box and drop timing, ignition to ensure a smooth change. For those wishing to use PowerFC with auto you should consider a mechanical auto gearbox instead of an electronic. The PowerFC should work fine with a mechanical gearbox such as power glide, transbreak etc.

This is because the mainstream ECU's in Nissan etc rely on the main cars' ECU for gear logic change control and functions. Cars such as the Toyota have a seperate ECU for the gearbox change logic and control so it's not affected. Apexi chose not to port the Automatic gearbox logic code (as its very long and complex) into the PowerFC because I suspect they found its simply not worth it & too complicated. You can buy an Automatic PowerFC for a Toyota Chaser for example and it has auto logic control under SETTING, you can set the shiftmap, ramp up speeds etc as it has the code to interact with the Toyota AUTO ECU that is seperate to the main ecu. So in summary - Auto PowerFC's exist & work but only for Toyota. We have seen quiet a few Auto R33 Skylines with manual PowerFCs - some report they work fine etc and there is no difference - do so at your own risk.

[wnted1]

The PowerFC only supports manual cars (excluding Toyota). It will work on an automatic car however it will not handle gear changes and simply keep the throttle nailed during a gear change. This will result in jerky gear changes and stress placed on the gearbox. The factory ECU during a gear change will communicate with the auto box and drop timing, ignition to ensure a smooth change. For those wishing to use PowerFC with auto you should consider a mechanical auto gearbox instead of an electronic. The PowerFC should work fine with a mechanical gearbox such as power glide, transbreak etc.

This is because the mainstream ECU's in Nissan etc rely on the main cars' ECU for gear logic change control and functions. Cars such as the Toyota have a seperate ECU for the gearbox change logic and control so it's not affected. Apexi chose not to port the Automatic gearbox logic code (as its very long and complex) into the PowerFC because I suspect they found its simply not worth it & too complicated. You can buy an Automatic PowerFC for a Toyota Chaser for example and it has auto logic control under SETTING, you can set the shiftmap, ramp up speeds etc as it has the code to interact with the Toyota AUTO ECU that is seperate to the main ecu. So in summary - Auto PowerFC's exist & work but only for Toyota. We have seen quiet a few Auto R33 Skylines with manual PowerFCs - some report they work fine etc and there is no difference - do so at your own risk.

Thanx for the info damo is there anything you would reccomend to run on the auto as a replacement for a pfc or is it pretty much jus buy a manual car lmao??

[CRoNic...]

Copypasta Damo!

Edited January 8, 2010 by CRoNic...

[Krishy]

yep just get a manual box and slap that in.....

[RubyRS4]

yep just get a manual box and slap that in.....

Tis what I did!

If keeping the auto ... an Apexi SAFC and SITC can do the job nicely.

[wnted1]

Tis what I did!

If keeping the auto ... an Apexi SAFC and SITC can do the job nicely.

Ruby how much did it cost you to get the manual put in and who did it??

The safc and sitc are they 2 diff things if so which would you reccomend?

[RubyRS4]

Ruby how much did it cost you to get the manual put in and who did it??

The safc and sitc are they 2 diff things if so which would you reccomend?

I fitted the box myself with Luke's help. Took our time and ensured we did it right and it went in without a problem.

The SAFC (super air flow controller) allows you to control fuel ratios (to a limit) and the SITC (super ignition timing controller) allows you to make timing changes. If you can only get one, get the SAFC first as sorting out your fueling issues should come first. Tho the SITC is cheaper, but harder to come by.

[Damo_R34]

http://www.japaneseimportspares.com.au/itemdetails/12840

[wnted1]

http://www.japaneseimportspares.com.au/itemdetails/12840

Thank-a-you Damoo and Ruby will need to pm u n find out sum info about the manual conversion parts prices etc considering doing it