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200rwkw from stock turbo

lindsey34

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Many people have done it, here's how I did it,

the exhaust you have is fine but include a dump pipe and a hiflow cat ,or if the one you have is 3" then that's fine. Hybrid intercooler 600x300, Profec B EBC @12psi, or a manual bleed if you can't afford the EBC, SAFC to correct the A/F ratio and that should see you there. My tune was done in 4th gear and made 195rwkw and 208rwkw in shootout mode, in 3rd it would easily make 200rwkw in normal mode as it reads higher in 3rd, just depends which gear your tuner prefers.

Oh incidently I also replaced the fuel pump with something better(Bosch) as I read somewhere the stockie isn't too flash but not too sure, maybe do a search.

benm Grand Master

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* Replace Pod filter with a standard airbox with K&N panel filter.

* Ex Cam Gear

* FMIC

* PowerFC

* Up the boost to 12psi

* Upgrade the fuel pump

That will get you close :D

The other easy way to do it is visit afew differeny dyno places. I got 203rwkw (30c weather) from 1 dyno place but then only 180rwkw on a different dyno (after the 203rwkw run) with the only difference being a fuel pump.

rev210 Grand Master

rev210

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don't need a fmic to get 200rwkw btw. I know of 211rwkw (284rwhp) without one using the stock cooler and turbo.

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My car was actually quicker than that particular car just that I never took mine back to the dyno after fixing the injector issues.

MJ Mentor

MJ

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would the turbo beable to handle this much power for a long period of time? This is my goal to reach 200kw at the moment, and im hoping i wont be too far off it once my fmic goes on.

I wont have much money for a turbo upgrade for the next few months and i dont wanna kill my stock turbo just yet :D

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don't need a fmic to get 200rwkw btw. I know of 211rwkw (284rwhp) without one using the stock cooler and turbo.

Had.

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My car was actually quicker than that particular car just that I never took mine back to the dyno after fixing the injector issues.

and whos car was that?? the stock cooler is useless at more that 8psi of boost!

u can get 215rwkw if u want with stock shit u just need to find a dyno that reads high :D

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don't need a fmic to get 200rwkw btw. I know of 211rwkw (284rwhp) without one using the stock cooler and turbo.

Had.

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Exhaust

Intake

Fuel pump

My car was actually quicker than that particular car just that I never took mine back to the dyno after fixing the injector issues.

I dont know about that, i got 187rwkw peak in shootout mode, and the more i was boosting it and tuning it with the SAFC, it was actually dropping rwkw, and then i felt the intercooler, OUCH. I was spraying it heaverly between runs, but decided to call it a day. I didnt want to wait that long to let it cool down. I suppose first run when its cold, it may go close, but still doesnt help me down the 1/4.

Sydneykid Grand Master

Sydneykid

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Hi guys, on the dyno, unless you run a separate fan for the standard intercooler (most dyno shops only have one fan in front of the radiator) you will always have this problem. This is not the case when you are driving the car on the road or the track, it is moving so the ambient air is flowing through both the radiator and the intercooler.

I have seen plenty of R33 GTST's make 200 rwkw at 12 psi on the standard turbo and intercooler. You just have to be carefull with the usual ceramic turbine problems. Of course, on a hot day, it is less likely to have its 200 rwkw than a car with a larger FMIC.

Hope that helps

predator Grand Master

predator

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That is always a factor... I've never felt my intercooler hot on the street after heavy use, but on a dyno its always gone warm - despite the use of dyno fans and the like.

If you run 10-12psi you should be able to get good power all-day, every-day without risk to the turbo or detonation, no matter what the outside temp, or conditions. Anything above (in mine at least), even with a FMIC is a bit iffy.

Don't aim for 200rwkw just because it sounds good!

benm Grand Master

benm

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Don't aim for 200rwkw just because it sounds good!

I think aiming for 200rwkw with the stock turbo is a great idea. By aiming for 200rwkw you really have to get everything running right and have -all- the bolt-on bits done. I think too many people go and buy $5k worth of bits and just throw them on without getting the full potential out of each individual part.

I've seen and read about too many cars that have done -some- of the bolt-on bits and then done the easy thing of just bolting on a bigger turbo whilst still only getting 200-215rwkw. I'd be quite angry if that was my car, knowing that even after a $1500-2000 aftermarket turbo im not getting the full potential from just the simple cheaper bolt-on bits n pieces.

Now the real challenge is getting 200rwkw from a stock ECU which im still pursuing (well I got it on 1 dyno but I want it on 3 different dyno's). An Exhaust Cam Gear and a S-AFC should get me there, then I know im deffinetly on the right track to getting a GCG Hiflow or HKS equivalent :(

rev210 Grand Master

rev210

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The car in question is owned by Nexus Six, I believe it was in shootout mode on a well respected Dyno Dynamics. Boostd and others have had the factory turbo over 200rwkw as well.

INASNT, you should know by now that the stock cooler works fine at 8psi even 10 or 12 psi. I have times to prove it.

My last dyno with an injector issue was over 175rwkw (shootout DD) at only 4300rpm with afr's in the low 10's to attempt to compensate. The 13.3 1/4 was done with the same power and issues. After I fixed the problem and rectified my fuel mixture I am fairly sure my power was a fair whack higher at the same revs.

I have set out to build a torque monster this time round. So the stock turbo and intercooler (crappy designed as it is) are going to get a real workout.

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lukits01- the balance knob is nearly all the way over to the SHARP side on my car, start in the middle and if boost rises with RPM then turn towards the SHARP side and if boost falls as RPM increase then go towards the MILD side. SAFC settings are dyno tuned for each individual car so should never be copied, mine vary between -6% to -13%.

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