Rb26- Enlarging Std Throttle Bodies

[XRATED]

As topic states:

I'd like to know if anyone has had they're standard throttle bodies enlarged on an RB26.

If so, any result data and contact details for who they used for the work would be greatly appreciated.

I havn't really seen or heard about it in Aus. I have noticed a few japanese builds have enlaged std tb's...

Cheers

Justin

PS I'm looking for constructive comments from people who have real world experience.

[GTRNUR]

Getting a normal single throttle body is an expensive enough operation. I cant imagine what it would cost to have 6 throttles done at once. I think it might be easier to modify the base plate, weld and match port it to some aftermarket IDF/IDA/DRLA throttles. Injection Perfection does some really nice throttle with trumpets, which you could then build a custom plenum around. Ive seen then in 48, 50mm and larger. Extremely nice quality.

The other options are to have the throttle shafts profiled, or change to these fancy looking things.

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/106680-shaftles...s-rb26dett.html

[Adriano]

Ed on v-eight.com has 8 enlarged rb26 throttles on his supra, i dont think it cost too much

http://www.v-eight.com/tech_forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=44

[Cartman]

from memory i got quoted around the $700 mark to get all 6 enlarged cant remember what size it was they would have been taken out to

[XRATED]

from memory i got quoted around the $700 mark to get all 6 enlarged cant remember what size it was they would have been taken out to

Who was the quote from?

Cheers

Justin

[XRATED]

Check these out!

Shaftless tb's!!!

[ezy_09s]

I would like a set of these..but they dont seem to be available

[XRATED]

I would like a set of these..but they dont seem to be available

I spoke John thismorning. He's going to try and get back into manufacturing a prototype set soon... Know one in the UK seems too interested though.

I'm not really holding my breath for a set... prices are going to be eeeexy! too.

Justin.

[ed_ma61]

I spoke John thismorning. He's going to try and get back into manufacturing a prototype set soon... Know one in the UK seems too interested though.

I'm not really holding my breath for a set... prices are going to be eeeexy! too.

Justin.

thread revival

i had mine bored to 48mm, had the shafts machined down (not quite shaftless but close), and new throttle plates installed.

cost about AU$350 in total

email [email protected] if you still want info. have pics of what we did, and contacts if sill required

cheers

ed

[WHITER33GTS-T]

Hey Ed,

Im interested in this also. How much bigger can they go over 48mm...? Would be nice to get the 26/30 breathing a little better...

[N I B]

EFI Hardware can do them 0398735400.

[ed_ma61]

EFI Hardware can do them 0398735400.

i got EFI hardware to do the new throttle blades, but i had the bores milled and finished locally in syd. cost SFA altogether. can recommend EFI hardware to do this.

on the rb26 body you wont get over 48mm. maybe 48.5mm, but that would REALLY be pushing it. 48 is clearly doable though

[OVADRV]

From memory reading another thread enlarged throttle bodies are useless unless you've had a valve job port polish,as the thread said your still going to get the same amount of air passing through the intake valves.Is this true? Ive always wanted to do enlarge the Tb but not sure.

[rob82]

The std throttle bodies have a combined area of around the same as a single 100mm throttle body. Porting the std throttle bodies is a completely useless mod unless your making over 1000rwkw. Garunteed the ported throttle bodies are a bitch to seal and have all sorts of idle issues. I thought everybody knows not to f**k with the std throttlebodies.

[ed_ma61]

The std throttle bodies have a combined area of around the same as a single 100mm throttle body. Porting the std throttle bodies is a completely useless mod unless your making over 1000rwkw. Garunteed the ported throttle bodies are a bitch to seal and have all sorts of idle issues. I thought everybody knows not to f**k with the std throttlebodies.

really? wow, i didnt know my engine had such problems!?! thanks for the heads up, ill go remove them now

[Supa Steve]

The std throttle bodies have a combined area of around the same as a single 100mm throttle body. Porting the std throttle bodies is a completely useless mod unless your making over 1000rwkw. Garunteed the ported throttle bodies are a bitch to seal and have all sorts of idle issues. I thought everybody knows not to f**k with the std throttlebodies.

Totally agree mate.

really? wow, i didnt know my engine had such problems!?! thanks for the heads up, ill go remove them now

Ed your application is totally different, Rob is refering to RB26 setup.

Edited June 14, 2010 by Supa Steve

[ed_ma61]

Ed your application is totally different, Rob is refering to RB26 setup.

not with the 'guaranteed to not seal' part. thats a poor call. and if someone had a problem once with boring a throttle body, then the issue should be brought up with the machine shop, not solved by pissing on the idea in general for generations to come

also, throttle blade/bore dia is not dictated by some simple 6 45mm is X times bigger than some Z sized single. that argument is rubbish. you need to look at your port velocities and harmonics, which are a function of bore/stroke, cam timing and intake length. someone may very well need a 48mm throttle in their particular setup.

but im not here to tell someone how to build an engine. OP asked if/how you can bore the throttles. above pics demonstrate how.

cheers

ed

Edited June 14, 2010 by ed_ma61

[XRATED]

Thanks for all the replies guys... I completely forgot about this thread.. ah ah ha

I ended up getting EFI hardware to bore my tb's out to 48mm. They sent them back to me a couple of weeks ago- they look great.

I don't forsee any idle problems.. The tb's have been machined to a much tighter tolerance than factory and hand finished. I also sent them some re-designed shaft seals that won't pop out under boost and leak. If you have stock shaft seals- they WILL leak under boost. If there is a problem with sealing, I'll send them back... I have plenty of little tricks to be employed to get a good seal too... Really it's not an issue.

It's a bit silly to say that "Garunteed the ported throttle bodies are a bitch to seal and have all sorts of idle issues"

And no I'm not chasing 1000kw.. thats silly. I'm not going into why I went with enlarged tb's as it would take all day to explain, let's just say I did some calculations, taking into consideration the projected airflow, cams, runner length and volume, plennum volume (greddy intake manifold), port size/volume, valve size, lift and engine capacity... The bigger tb's will provide some gains.

For those who have had they're tb's bored out, what gaskets or gasket material are you using? Has anyone made a phenolic gasket yet?

Cheers

Justin

Edited June 14, 2010 by XRATED

[PM-R33]

Let us know how you go with them once they are on the car. Would be interesting to hear some real world experience with such a mod.

Edited June 14, 2010 by PM-R33

[XRATED]

Oh and if your considering this, you won't really see any benifit unless you have a well flowing head or much larger capaicty behind them... Also a larger plenum is required to get the best from them- the stock 26 plenum is to small.

J.