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Thanks Adam, it was a well organised event. Movie was pretty good, but as James said probably one of those movies you have to watch 2-3 times before you can fully understand what is

going on.

It was a great night and I can't wait for the next one :(

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I think that the reason he could see his kids faces in the end was because he believed in the dream, that it was real. All the previous times when he couldn't see their faces it was because he knew it wasn't real so his subconcsious wouldnt allow it. But when he believed he was awake he then remembered his kids faces, like how he can see his wifes face all throughout the film.

It is slightly 50/50 if the spinny thing did faulter, I thought it kept on going. So I thought that when he wakes up on the plane it is all a bit too surreal. I thought the point of him leaving the spinny thing to go see his kids meant that he would never see the result, meaning it is inevitable that he stays in limbo because his mind isn't on getting out anymore. Also the kids are too close to what he dreams all the time which is a bit suss, but that could just be for the guessing purpose.

Awesome film to look at though, loved it when the girl goes in for the first time and all the buildings start exploding.

Nice to match some forum names to faces! Pleasure making everyone's acquaintence. Great movie too, look forward to the next one. Doesn't the drive in just kick the crap out of regular cinema?!?

Doesn't the drive in just kick the crap out of regular cinema?!?

not in a recaro... :D

I didnt meet you Birds, really wanted to put a face to the long winded debates.... :ninja:

:P Spewin I missed this one. Definitely coming to the next one.

@ scarface_au: Mat Cauthon would probably not attend considering he hates socialising unless there was some kind of card game going on :blink:

@ scarface_au: Mat Cauthon would probably not attend considering he hates socialising unless there was some kind of card game going on :P

Do you think he'd rather go to a family dinner than a movie?

not in a recaro... :P

I didnt meet you Birds, really wanted to put a face to the long winded debates.... :D

Whoops, factory seats for the drive in win :(

You saw me, and I spoke to you briefly...just didn't introduce...will remember next time :)

I think that the reason he could see his kids faces in the end was because he believed in the dream, that it was real. All the previous times when he couldn't see their faces it was because he knew it wasn't real so his subconcsious wouldnt allow it. But when he believed he was awake he then remembered his kids faces, like how he can see his wifes face all throughout the film.

It is slightly 50/50 if the spinny thing did faulter, I thought it kept on going. So I thought that when he wakes up on the plane it is all a bit too surreal. I thought the point of him leaving the spinny thing to go see his kids meant that he would never see the result, meaning it is inevitable that he stays in limbo because his mind isn't on getting out anymore. Also the kids are too close to what he dreams all the time which is a bit suss, but that could just be for the guessing purpose.

Awesome film to look at though, loved it when the girl goes in for the first time and all the buildings start exploding.

Although I didn't go see it with you guys, but after reading your review Charlie, "the point of him leaving the spinny thing to go see his kids meant that he would never see the result" is making me think about the ending even more lol, I simply just thought he actually woke up. I think it's awesome how it doesn't tell you what actually happened, just keeps you guessing until DVD comes out with directors' commentary hehe

^Yeah I think a truly good film designed like this will cause you to question yourself. I'm trying to remember other films that work this way. It should be easy since they are always the ones that piss me off the most >.< :P

One thing I thought was poorly done thoug is character development and structure.. In the begining of the film it is about 'Inception' and the group they form, mainly Leo and the young girl. But by the end of the film it becomes purely about Leo and the other characters are all loose ends. Tough though because it was a long film as it and it was a complicated story to fit in a few hours. I think it could have done with 2 films, or they could have just taken out the other characters and made it so that he could operate soley, not a hard thing to do. blah blah blah blah blah.... ;)

Go see it for a second viewing! Everything fits together much nicer!!!

Nerrrd... who goes for a second viewing? :no:

I went to Avatar 3D twice in one week :P

Haha I rarely ever see movies twice, anything that makes me see something twice is either really confusing or really special :(

I'm thinking three reasons why he didn't bother looking at the spinning top:

A. He didn't care whether he was in a dream or reality, was just happy to see his kids faces and that made him content with whatever he had in the end, dream or reality. Remember his wife's riddle? "You're waiting for a train...you don't know where it goes but this doesn't bother you because you're together etc."

B. He didn't need the spinning top totem to tell him it was reality, seeing his kids faces was a totem in itself because he knew he could never see their faces in a dream no matter how hard he tried.

C. His kids faces at that point were more important than discovering whether he was in a dream or reality, hence they distracted him. He probably spun the totem again later to check lol.

Now if you ask me it was most likely in reality at the end (unless the totem itself is a lie), because the thing wobbled (you heard it wobble) and all other times he spun it in a dream it would spin flawlessly. The film makers just didn't show it falling completely to kind of suggest it could keep spinning if it wanted to...very tricky to imply an open ending here because if they showed it spinning flawlessly and then blanked out we would all assume he was in a dream. What shoots the reality ending down though...is...why is reality exactly like the dreams he's always had (kids sitting in backyard playing exactly the same)?

Very cleverly written movie considering how compelx and difficult the story is to tell. Seriously though, go see it a second time...movie went from 7/10 to 10/10 after second viewing :(

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