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get off your bloody high horse eps. when was the last time you bought a BRAND NEW set of wheels from work? you are buying second hand, and they dont see that money. if you really wanna support the designers/manufacturer, buy new. otherwise stfu and let the dude put drifteks on his gts if he wants

get off your bloody high horse eps. when was the last time you bought a BRAND NEW set of wheels from work? you are buying second hand, and they dont see that money. if you really wanna support the designers/manufacturer, buy new. otherwise stfu and let the dude put drifteks on his gts if he wants

wooow easy tiger :(

i think that this is the first time i have seen eps be put in his spot lol

but seriously i agree with eps here

i personally wouldnt do anything to the gts and save until i got enuff to buy a proper performance car. but i guess u gotta start some where.

eps was not put in his place.

eps is right. an R33 skyline IS jdm. chinese wheels do NOT make a car look japanese styled. and there's no point doing performance mods on a non turbo skyline because it won't RESPOND to the mods in the same way a turbo would.

eps is also right in the exclusivitey arguement - the less there is of a product - the easier we sleep at night knowing that our work / ssr / volk wheels are better quality than what Muzza put on his calais that he got from supercheap auto - the scary thing is now these chinese scumbags are making counterfeit products that LOOK like our genuine 3 piece hand built japanese wheels - and these chinese wheels come in low offsets too - thus cheapening the japanese product.

eps is also right in saying that chinese scumbag copy ripoff companies like (you know who i'm talking about) who counterfeit exhausts, bodykits, wheels, manifolds, etc using cheap labour and using genuine parts as moulds thus less expenditure to recouperate costs are detrimental to the industry.

ask Ueno how he feels about "vortex" or carmate.com ripping off literally every design which he - as a middle wage income earner young guy who dreamed and then drew the bodykit, designed, fabricated, built and sold to a few freinds, then marketed, produced, stamped and created his own product. which propelled him to worldwide notoriety as being a body shop master... now ask him how his "high horse" is when some rat charges $800AUD for a complete bodykit retail which was HIS product.

granted i was on a high horse because i beleive in stopping the copy. people spend a long time creating these products and it's not fair that someone can plaguerise their design and sell it cheap with as little to no cost involved..

QUESTION

how would you guys feel if you found out that someone started doing the job you're doing - without even asking if that's OKAY with you if they do that - only to find out that the other guy that's started doing YOUR job is happy to do a similar job to you (not quite as good but SIMILAR) - for about HALF the salary that you're on... except the difference is - they've never gone to UNI / Tafe / spent years networking within the company or paid any dues that you have. he's just doing it for self gains as a quick cash fix.

now imagine that same bloke being the core reason that you were "let go of" only to find out that this bloke has done it to three of your friends also.

because i can BET YOU that's EXACTLY how companies like Apexi, Trust and Greddy feel.

but no no - i really SHOULD get off my high horse :)

(basti just so you know there's no hard feelings here man, and i hope that your comment was not in any harsh feelings toward me!)

and sorry to go off topic but that was a contributive post nonetheless *snub*

was i REALLY put in my place? I'm right... i KNOW that i'm right! :)

Unfortunately, in the end when you come down to it, everyone's a tightass. If they can do something that will save them money, they will.

Having said that: Next rims I buy will be LM-GT4s, and NOT the knockoffs. Gimme Rays goodness any day.

+1 for none of this fake shit lol

eps was not put in his place.

eps is right. an R33 skyline IS jdm. chinese wheels do NOT make a car look japanese styled. and there's no point doing performance mods on a non turbo skyline because it won't RESPOND to the mods in the same way a turbo would.

eps is also right in the exclusivitey arguement - the less there is of a product - the easier we sleep at night knowing that our work / ssr / volk wheels are better quality than what Muzza put on his calais that he got from supercheap auto - the scary thing is now these chinese scumbags are making counterfeit products that LOOK like our genuine 3 piece hand built japanese wheels - and these chinese wheels come in low offsets too - thus cheapening the japanese product.

eps is also right in saying that chinese scumbag copy ripoff companies like (you know who i'm talking about) who counterfeit exhausts, bodykits, wheels, manifolds, etc using cheap labour and using genuine parts as moulds thus less expenditure to recouperate costs are detrimental to the industry.

ask Ueno how he feels about "vortex" or carmate.com ripping off literally every design which he - as a middle wage income earner young guy who dreamed and then drew the bodykit, designed, fabricated, built and sold to a few freinds, then marketed, produced, stamped and created his own product. which propelled him to worldwide notoriety as being a body shop master... now ask him how his "high horse" is when some rat charges $800AUD for a complete bodykit retail which was HIS product.

granted i was on a high horse because i beleive in stopping the copy. people spend a long time creating these products and it's not fair that someone can plaguerise their design and sell it cheap with as little to no cost involved..

QUESTION

how would you guys feel if you found out that someone started doing the job you're doing - without even asking if that's OKAY with you if they do that - only to find out that the other guy that's started doing YOUR job is happy to do a similar job to you (not quite as good but SIMILAR) - for about HALF the salary that you're on... except the difference is - they've never gone to UNI / Tafe / spent years networking within the company or paid any dues that you have. he's just doing it for self gains as a quick cash fix.

now imagine that same bloke being the core reason that you were "let go of" only to find out that this bloke has done it to three of your friends also.

because i can BET YOU that's EXACTLY how companies like Apexi, Trust and Greddy feel.

but no no - i really SHOULD get off my high horse :)

(basti just so you know there's no hard feelings here man, and i hope that your comment was not in any harsh feelings toward me!)

and sorry to go off topic but that was a contributive post nonetheless *snub*

was i REALLY put in my place? I'm right... i KNOW that i'm right! :D

what the fk is this shit a bible reading? :)

comeon man you been chatting to birds for to long :)

*sandy vag shit*

all good man. wasn't directed at you personally, just the mentality. if this guy wasnt in a gts, i'd say exactly the same thing you are. no cheaply manufactured/knock off rims are ever going to touch my car. this argument needs its own thread and i wont say anymore bout it in here

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