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  ActionDan said:
For the non GT-R fans among you, which it seems is like 99% of you, what is it that puts you off? Is it just a case of it costs too much to go "as" fast as another lighter car?

To claify, GTR owners also have jobs which limits their ability to dribble rubbish on the net. Me being a GTSt owner, I have no such problem and able to post rubbish on the net all day.

I would have preferred a GTR back in 2000 when i bought my car. I would probably prefer a GTR today. But thats as a road car with the occasional track day....and only if someone else was paying the bills. Even down to fuel consumption at a track day. Have you seen the amount of gas a 350rwkws GTR uses at a track day. They are thirsty animals. You get less use out of your $500 pads. You have more cooling problems with water and oil. Transfer cases are only really at their best the first 10 track days after a rebuild then they loosen up again. They really need 265/35/18s to handle the cars weight and clear the cars brakes. Launch with a bit of lock on and you will soon enough experience the joys of blowing the front diff.

They are awesome cars and if i have about 80-90k i would build a weapon of a track GTR. I would love to. If i havd 50k i would go buy this in a heart beat. But they are just that little bit more expensive in most places, they are harder to work on. So makes my already limited ability to track my car even more limited. You can build a GTSt like sav mans which for far less and a std RB25 with a 3037 in it would make it a weapon of a car. As is with a 210rwkws RB20 it is likely to be quick enough

  ActionDan said:
Roy was it you who put the 32 through the fence at Targa? If it was, did you wish the fronts would engage to pull you around the corner rather than letting you slide through it? Semi serious question...

That was Marlin. I would have rolled the car on the first stage....there is a good reason why i type crap on the net rather then actually enter events :/

And if you want an S14 just buy this .... Have seen it run, its a nice car and quick because its well sorted. Still plenty of areas to develop but already a great base.

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I think too much corner speed and no grip is a tyre thing...irrespective of whether rear wheels, front wheels or all wheels are being driven? But he is aguy that owns both, has races both so probably one of the better informed guys to offer an opinion on the topic {serious opinion}

  ActionDan said:
Yeah cheap S14, I saw that on NS a while back for sale.

Well someone should ask Marlin that question then Roy

Bro, nothin was going around that corner.

I didn't hear the nav's call for the corner, came over the crest and where I thought it was going straight, it ummm, it turned hard left.

No amount of GTR/4WD or anything was making it go around. I was flat in 4th 80 metres before the corner :P lol

And you can Jam GTR's, great things though they are if they're mega horsepower, mega braked, mega tyred, mega dollar things, but for most of us mere mortals, they're not an affordable competition car.

No "street type" GTR that I know of is quicker around a challenging track like Lakeside than my GTS-t, or Harry's 180, or Callum's 180....... or that bloody 80's Escort, or heaps of other things.

  Marlin said:
Bro, nothin was going around that corner.

I didn't hear the nav's call for the corner, came over the crest and where I thought it was going straight, it ummm, it turned hard left.

No amount of GTR/4WD or anything was making it go around. I was flat in 4th 80 metres before the corner :P lol

lol I know mate I watched the clip, worth giving you a razz over though

  Marlin said:
And you can Jam GTR's, great things though they are if they're mega horsepower, mega braked, mega tyred, mega dollar things, but for most of us mere mortals, they're not an affordable competition car.

No "street type" GTR that I know of is quicker around a challenging track like Lakeside than my GTS-t, or Harry's 180, or Callum's 180....... or that bloody 80's Escort, or heaps of other things.

='(

To be perfectly honest, from my point of view, I've had both GTR and now a cheaper RWD so feel as though I can have an opinion and share it with you......

- If I couldn't afford to own and build an absolutely balls out GTR like Giants R32, I would gladly stick with a RWD 32/33 or S platform, and be quicker than 99% or the GTR crowd regardless. Heck, even Giant reckons my thing is "the perfect all-rounder" and "no one expect you to be any good in it which makes it sweeter when you go out and smash them!".

And I still cannot believe how cheap the car is to campaign.

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