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I bought this last friday, to replace my impreza, which will fund a work ute

its clean as, auto :-( , and a tight and responsive L24e $850 with 2 months rego

I have 2 5 speeds and a spare L24e from a C210. I was wondering if anyone has

everything else to convert to manual (pedal box, clutch master and line, stick,

console rubber and floorpan seal) and if the yoke is the same with auto and manual

feels good to be back in a skyline, any help is appreciated

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damn.

thanks guys for your help

there is a datsun wreckers in Castlereagh, Sydney, that has a straight C210 coupe

minus engine, gearbox and most of interior if anyone wants it. Has rust in boot, but is worth saving. also 2 MR30 sedans

His name is Carlos, he's a reasonable bloke, have a chat to him

http://www.sportsclassic.com.au/

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Daewoo Enthusiast

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^^^ Carlos Casmiri ^^^ Rally dude and hoarder of Zed Parts.

You need the tailshaft and speedo cable from the manual, as well as the clutch pedal and the bolt/rod thing that goes through the manual pedal box...

I reckon that, the Auto and Long Manual box would be the same length (didn't measure) so you might be able to use the Auto Tailshaft with a Long Box... but the gearstick will be a few cm further back in the hole...

Biggest problem is going to be the crossmember... the Auto Tunnel is about 10cm wider than the Manual Tunnel, so you are trying to bolt the gearbox crossmember into thin air... Auto one crosses the transmission in a completely different spot, and bolts through the floorpan at different levels, so you will have a slight complex fabrication job...

Cheers,

Daewoo

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NightMonkeyII

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^^^ Carlos Casmiri ^^^ Rally dude and hoarder of Zed Parts.

heeheehee i like that

You need the tailshaft and speedo cable from the manual, as well as the clutch pedal and the bolt/rod thing that goes through the manual pedal box...

Im hoping to find a complete manual at the wreckers. nothing in sydney, goulburn has a couple of auto's. i will find one!

I reckon that, the Auto and Long Manual box would be the same length (didn't measure) so you might be able to use the Auto Tailshaft with a Long Box... but the gearstick will be a few cm further back in the hole...

thought that would be the case with the long box, so i wont use this option.

Biggest problem is going to be the crossmember... the Auto Tunnel is about 10cm wider than the Manual Tunnel, so you are trying to bolt the gearbox crossmember into thin air... Auto one crosses the transmission in a completely different spot, and bolts through the floorpan at different levels, so you will have a slight complex fabrication job...

Ill be able to fabricate the crossmember no worries. I think my biggest drama will be getting hold of the complete conversion.

This is all very useful info, Thanks daewoo, muchly appreciated!

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Ill be able to fabricate the crossmember no worries.

When you do, can I have one :(:rofl::D ... all progress on mine stopped about 3 months ago when I hit this hurdle, and lost interest... as the teachers all said "Daewoo is easily distracted"...

I think my biggest drama will be getting hold of the complete conversion.

Two things... the short boxes are in short supply, only ever used in MR30s and Stanzas... and, the plate that holds the input shaft bearing (or whatever it's real name is) is Aluminum, so prone to shitting themself... before I bought it, I would be taking that plate off and seeing if it is faxed, if it is, the plate is the same as a 'K' box, but it usually faxes the whole front housing (which you can also just swap for a 'K' one)...

As it is just a Daily, probably not a big deal...

Cheers,

Daewoo

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Im hoping to find a complete manual at the wreckers. nothing in sydney, goulburn has a couple of auto's. i will find one!

Rushy (Pick n Payless) at Blacktown doesn't have any ?????????

Take a drive down to Dapto Pick a Part, they have 5 MR30's down there and I think 2 were manuals complete when I was there last Thursday.

I wasn't looking for manuals persay, but will if you like as I should be down there this week after picking up my manifold from a guy nearby. (Extreme Turbo Manifolds)

Cheers, D

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Dapto don't know what they have!

Last Thursday they told me they had ONE (1) but I found FIVE (5) so maybe the four (4) they don't have are manual lol

I'm going back to Extreme Turbo Manifolds on Thursday morning, so I will stop in to Pick a Part and look. If I find I'll take some pickies for you as proof.

Cheers, D

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Ok! Been to Dapto today and as usual, they don't know what they have and there was one manual, but the pedal box was being removed when I was there and the rest had gone, if the guys taking out the pedal box already didn't have it.

PM me with what you need for this manual conversion and I'll see what I have spare.

Cheers, Dennis

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thanks for that ghostrider. wreckers people are generally pretty dumb, like the guys in Melbourne,

crushed the C210 coupe after having it for only a week and everyone wanting stuff off it

Mag86, i need the whole lot, seeing as the C210 5 speed is too long

Do R32 gtst's use a stubby box? i know is a lot smaller than the R33 box.

had a thought, RB25 n/a and a R32 box. what do you guys think?

Also bought a DR30 series 2 instrument panel, techo goes to 9000!

but all the connections are different to the stock instrument panel.

ill upload a pic asap

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thanks for that ghostrider. wreckers people are generally pretty dumb, like the guys in Melbourne,

crushed the C210 coupe after having it for only a week and everyone wanting stuff off it

Mag86, i need the whole lot, seeing as the C210 5 speed is too long

Do R32 gtst's use a stubby box? i know is a lot smaller than the R33 box.

had a thought, RB25 n/a and a R32 box. what do you guys think?

Also bought a DR30 series 2 instrument panel, techo goes to 9000!

but all the connections are different to the stock instrument panel.

ill upload a pic asap

Your going to have a problem fitting your S2 instrument cluster into an S1 car. All your connections are diferrent, so you're going to have to rewire or maybe replace the instrument loom. Don't know if the latter is possible, but rewiring would be.

The R32 box can be used but it needs an L series front housing on it. As Mags says Stewart Wilkins will do the mod for you. The gear lever is going to come out of the tunnel a little further back in the hole, which isn't a huge biggie issue.

I was originally going down the RB25DE conversion until I stumbled across my PNV and decided to keep it a bit stockish. It's a relatively easy conversion and been done to bits, along with the RB30E conversion.

I'm about to have a huge cleanout of accumulated bits, so if your interested let me know.

Cheers, D

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This is what you want if your going to do it easy!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nissan-DR30-Skyline...=item58867ab14f

If you buy this, take it to South West Instruments at Smeaton Grange and he will modify it for you. He did my S2 cluster a few years ago.

Cheers, D

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NightMonkeyII

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Yo! here is my instrument cluster

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I like how yours goes to 260km/h. ill think about that one

that cluster itself will justify a engine transplant :-)

The series 2 dash KILLS the series 1 dash!

thanks andrew, good info!

engine exchange isnt a huge priority at the moment

might do it in 6 months or so

ghostrider, when you do your clean out, if you can gather a

complete 5 speed conversion, including tailshaft,

and also series 1 hotplates in good condition. If you have

all this, and we can talk price.

thankfully, you dont live too far from me

I read somewhere that for ideal air supply, the plenum

volume is matched with engine displacement, and double engine

displacement for n/a engines. cut 3 sides off the stock plenum

smoothen the inlet runners and tig up a 2.4l volume plenum.

dont know if im dreaming now, but a RB30 throttle body and airflow meter

to a aftermarket ecu?

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The 260km/h speedo is very difficult to get these days, as Jenesis wont trade outside of the domestic market. One sold on ebay (complete cluster) recently for a little over $200.00 and the Tomei variety 240km/h gets onto Yahoo in Japan a bit often but landed it would cost in excess of $600.00.

When you look at the back of the S1 cluster, you will find it entirely diferrent to the S2.

I might have an Aussie S2 dashboard harness in a grey dash under the house that you can play with if you like. I'll have a look over the weekend and let you know.

Mechanical parts I will be reluctant to let go because I have 2 x KHR30 Paul Newman coupes & an DR30 coupe track car that need maintaining. A stock tailshaft I might have, as I'm upgrading one of my PNV's to the stronger larger DR30 tailshaft. The companion flange might be an issue because all my R30's came out with R200 diffs.

Probably the only box I have that I would be prepared to let go is an HR31 RB20DET box.

The RB30E throttle body isn't much better than the one you have now. The next one up is the 60mm KA24E (U12 Pintara) or RB25DE throttle body and with an a/mkt ECU you wont need an AFM at all, as it will most likely use an MAF sensor.

As for an inlet plenum, you might find it's more cost effective to extrude hone or power port the manifold. I have an N42 (non EGR) 280ZX inlet manifold that has been comcoated, that I might be tempted to part with, or maybe a stock 280ZX EGR manifold, depending how your bent.

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