Radar Detectors?

[warps]

They CAN detect your radar detector

They WILL confiscate it

They WILL fine you ($913 back in 1995)

Just about any car made since 2000 which has a trip computer will have a feature for a speed alert. Heck, some cars even have a max speed setting so you can't go any faster unless you turn it off.

But go right ahead. Buy one and have some fun.

[Peter89]

Agreed

Might as well have posted up a question asking where you can get some good crack or where the drags will be on Friday night. If you want to know specific information about them, maybe ask in the WA forums or do some searching on American car forums. They tend to know alot about the technical side of things, i.e. what types of radar they detect and what they can be detected by.

Be warned though, they have radar detector detectors nowadays...and the thing will turn you into a paranoid individual. Every service station you pass will have it's automatic doors set off the green lights which isn't so different to the reaction from someone else being targeted with police radar. It's when the oh-shit meter turns red that you have a proper lock on...enter thoughts about throwing the thing out the window. Ahhh memories

actually its not. radar detectors are perfectly legal to buy and sell however use on victorian roads is illegal. yes they do have radar detector detectors however that model im looking at is very difficult to detect on the most sensitive settings.

i cant say never but i rarely speed through intersections not only for the fact that a lot have cameras that are very sensitive, it's also dangerous. far too often i have had to avoid cars doing right turns too early. so, i don't have any problems with fixed cameras.

the fines and now to think of it, it was only 2, have been from mobile cameras setup. which do use radar and do fine people for 3-10kph over.

most radar detectors have city settings to avoid false alerts from other devices that use radar.

oh well, dead topic is dead. ill look for more info else where.

Edited November 11, 2010 by Peter89

[Peter89]

They CAN detect your radar detector

They WILL confiscate it

They WILL fine you ($913 back in 1995)

Just about any car made since 2000 which has a trip computer will have a feature for a speed alert. Heck, some cars even have a max speed setting so you can't go any faster unless you turn it off.

But go right ahead. Buy one and have some fun.

s14s have no such features.

Would these devices work for all types of radars? How do they react to mobile speed cameras ?

they work for all bands used by police forces. mobile speed cameras, that are setup and fixed for the entire day use radar and are fully automatic.

police also setup on the side of the road with lasers and have another car later down the road they call to pull you over or they do it themselves.

Edited November 11, 2010 by Peter89

[Nee-san]

police also setup on the side of the road with lasers and have another car later down the road they call to pull you over or they do it themselves.

Avoiding these technique is of interest, are there an units which are effective against LIDAR whilst remaining electronically sealed ?

[Peter89]

Avoiding these technique is of interest, are there an units which are effective against LIDAR whilst remaining electronically sealed ?

the only way to stop such laser readings is with laser jamming devices however it will be somewhat obvious when your car can't be read.

detection is easier however you must react within a second otherwise its too late.

[Nee-san]

the only way to stop such laser readings is with laser jamming devices however it will be somewhat obvious when your car can't be read.

detection is easier however you must react within a second otherwise its too late.

Tell me more... and not in the gay 'grease' way LOL

[Birds]

[rotarytt]

http://www.delonixradar.com.au/

scroll down to the map and find your state.

far to much for me to be reading rite now.

but I have somewhere seen radar detectors which claim to be legal in victoria as they provide another function such as reverse parking.

I'v wanted to try laser veil. although I'm not sure of it's legality as it tints headlights.

it blocks the reading at a distance til you get close giving you time to slow down if you spot them.

I like laser jammers unsure of how legal they are. one with an alarm, as soon as you slow down turn it off.

and always drive with my tomtom with the latest trapsters poi. seems to give some false reading perhaps it's just that fixed cameras lately have been taking on different shapes to be more discreet and can't even be spotted a lot of the time.

[bubba]

I've got a Whistler Pro78 and it's great, haven't had a fine of any sort since I got it ~4yrs ago. It also gives you a much better awareness of what's happening on the road, especially as more and more emergency vehicles and road workers join the Safety Warning System programme.

[Nee-san]

Hahaha, we;l played sir.

and yes, Jammers could be the answer.

[GTR R35]

There are only 2 models you should choose for OZ. They are the Beltronics STi-R (BEL STiR) and Escort Passport 9500ci Remote Radar Detectors.

Both units work very well are undetectable. I know people who use them and have saved them many times.

The LIDAR Jammers also work very well, although you need to ensure the heads are located near the numberplate and are difficult to see.

Prepare to spend upwards of $2500 for a good setup. The Veil stuff is very noticable and only effective against LIDAR (Laser).

As others have said, the best way to avoid fines is not to speed, but a RD and jammer also helps.

As far as false alarms is conserned with the GPS enabled RD's they learn the false spots. Also the NSW police have now switched to Ka band for their mobile units, so falsing is almost a thing of the past, although the new active cruise control in high end cars causes some falsing.

As for being able to be detected, a RD can only be detected if it is switched on. You turn it off and no RDD will detect it. Also there are only 3 RDD units in NSW (last i heard), and they are generally in country areas for truck RD enforcement.

There is so much BS and scare tactics in regards to RD usage. Yes it is a $1000 fine and 9 points, but the chances of getting caught is very slim. You will find more people run them than you might think.

[bozodos]

I'm all for the use of radar detectors against the private contractors who sit alongside roads revenue raising. Especially given that whenever you get the fine its long after the offence anyway.

[Modena]

Anyone using Trapster app on their iphone? it seems pretty good at showing you where speed cameras are.

[rotarytt]

trapster is great for tom tom updates. or too perhaps check the route your taking.

I wouldn't drive around with it turned on. unless you have an optus unlimited data plan.

next time your bill comes in you will be in for a shock.

so are lidar lasers still in use?

unless you are constantly driving over 140 or always have a spare few thousand readily available its not worth your while.

the bad part about it is people with them keep trying to reach new top speeds.

I just know I'd be addicted to it..

[Misanthrope]

My friend owns a stage 3 Audi S4. He installed a radar and laser detector. When I sit in his car all I hear is a voice warning 'K-band!' and he slows down. Don't know how it works for him but he said its saved him enough within a year to have justified the purchase of the unit. I'll have to get one I think for my GTR. I think he uses beltronics. Or was it something called spectre? Its undetectable.  

[Modena]

trapster is great for tom tom updates. or too perhaps check the route your taking.

I wouldn't drive around with it turned on. unless you have an optus unlimited data plan.

next time your bill comes in you will be in for a shock.

so are lidar lasers still in use?

unless you are constantly driving over 140 or always have a spare few thousand readily available its not worth your while.

the bad part about it is people with them keep trying to reach new top speeds.

I just know I'd be addicted to it..

You are telling tales about the data and trapster.

I have only 500 MB a month on my iphone through TPG and if you use it daily then at most you will download about 10 MB a day. It does drain the battery quickly though so you should have a car charger.

Besides you should have 'consume apps" that show you how much data you have used up.

I drive with both my tom tom and now trapster on my iphone 4 and trapster is much more accurate regarding fixed cameras too.

[mad082]

You are telling tales about the data and trapster.

I have only 500 MB a month on my iphone through TPG and if you use it daily then at most you will download about 10 MB a day. It does drain the battery quickly though so you should have a car charger.

Besides you should have 'consume apps" that show you how much data you have used up.

I drive with both my tom tom and now trapster on my iphone 4 and trapster is much more accurate regarding fixed cameras too.

yeah i agree with the data usage. it isn't that much. also agree with having a data usage app.

i've used trapster on my phone and it's good. it updates so if someone goes past one a few mins before you and logs it then it will tell you about it. you can put the locations onto a normal GPS as well, but i don't think it gives the spoken warning, just a "ding ding" and it will say the reason for the warning in text on the screen. i have fixed speed cameras and redlight cameras already in my gps with spoken warnings that i downloaded of another site. haven't gotten around to putting the trapster ones on though.

as for getting done for 3km/h over, if you have the correct profile tyres on your car, to get done for doing 3km/h over in a 60 zone, you realistically need to be doing about 65 by the speedo. that's a few needle widths over the line. speedos generally over read by a few kmh, so you have to be doing more than 3kmh faster on the speedo to get caught. in the case of the missus car, in a 100km/h zone, 108kmh is about how fast i'd have to be going on the speedo to get booked, which is more than a little slight speed error from paying attention to the road and not the speed.

[hamiltonau]

um so can i get this wonderful trapster thing on my tomtom? no iphone and cant see it on the nokia apps store which is a bit crappy i must admit, cant afford a 2k plus radar avoider yet but sounds too good to be true. most of the speed traps i have seen..

ie. lidar pointing up the hill at the mittagong big dipper on the hume, not much u could do until it was too late. though of course pretty dumb to be speeding through there anyway, got back under just in time last two trips

[mad082]

um so can i get this wonderful trapster thing on my tomtom? no iphone and cant see it on the nokia apps store which is a bit crappy i must admit, cant afford a 2k plus radar avoider yet but sounds too good to be true. most of the speed traps i have seen..

ie. lidar pointing up the hill at the mittagong big dipper on the hume, not much u could do until it was too late. though of course pretty dumb to be speeding through there anyway, got back under just in time last two trips

should be able to yeah. only thing with having it on a GPS unit is that you need to constantly update it so it gets the latest spots the mobile units are sitting at, so you can still get done if they are at a location that isn't on your list. but that said, if it is a brand new spot and you are the first to go through there with trapster then you will still get done, as it isn't a radar detector, simply uses gps maps and remembers the locations of them.

as for spending $1000 or more on a detector, i don't see the point really. unless you are a habitual speeder who is constantly getting booked then you are spending a lot of money to save a small amount. i've been booked twice in 11 years, with the fines totaling $375 (both of those on my p's). how many 3-10km over fines would it have to save you from to pay for itself? quite a few. a few years worth for most people.

[hamiltonau]

should be able to yeah. only thing with having it on a GPS unit is that you need to constantly update it so it gets the latest spots the mobile units are sitting at, so you can still get done if they are at a location that isn't on your list. but that said, if it is a brand new spot and you are the first to go through there with trapster then you will still get done, as it isn't a radar detector, simply uses gps maps and remembers the locations of them.

as for spending $1000 or more on a detector, i don't see the point really. unless you are a habitual speeder who is constantly getting booked then you are spending a lot of money to save a small amount. i've been booked twice in 11 years, with the fines totaling $375 (both of those on my p's). how many 3-10km over fines would it have to save you from to pay for itself? quite a few. a few years worth for most people.

cool, so where do i go to add it to the tomtom? cant see anything on the tomtom website and too lazy right now to do any proper googling

as for the detector, if i had the money i would get one. dont get fines often either and long since stopped speeding around built up areas (well..cept for the odd 2am run to maccas), its usually miles from anywhere on the odd roadtrip that i get stung. radar thingy would be awesome for that but im still skeptical they work on a well hidden highway rozzer behind a tree with a laser gun.

radar units in territories is probably more what they work on. .?