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I suggest to ALL who love their cars, to be there when it's worked on/ran on dyno.

If you don't really know the technician, this is top-of-the-shelf-advice!

Communication is PARAMOUNT. My tuner had an issue, and instead of spending 20 mins chasing it down, he asked me a simply question (which I could answer) and he had the problem fixed in 30 seconds.

Communication Plus!

Communicate, ask questions.

Don't hesitate to ask questions. If not for yourself - But for your car's sake ask questions!

Sorry for the loss, but use this as a platform to learn.

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From a Christian perspective, one can do one of two things - hmmm, maybe more than two if I were lucid enough.

1) to move on as you've done and just pray for them, knowing that your experience serves some salient lessons.

or...

2) to offer the boss and the P-plater a bible each, ask them if they can sleep straight in bed; hmmm, maybe even come to church with you...

:upon rejecting such an offer, you (and friends), picket the place until they get the rude awakening that your pickets are bad for their business > they'll want to make peace with you > compensate you.

Subjectively, I carry a baseball bat.

Objectively, God carries the baseball bat.

hahaha im catholic so maybe that would work! or i should just bring him a video of the snow channel. then call them n whisper 7 days

Subjectively, I carry a baseball bat.

Objectively, God carries the baseball bat.

f**k god... he's just an asshole that doesn't have the balls to use his baseball bat unless it's on helpless starving black children.

When I got my car tuned the first time, it broke a RIGHT HAND drive shaft during their test drive. Without charge they jacked it up back at the shop and spend a deal of time trying to find the cause of the issue. (Engine mounts)

However, what broke the mounts? Since (when it came back) then the car dragged to one side and the wheel was out of alignment. As soon as I left I noticed it and turned around and went back to complain. The LEFT HAND tierod is stuffed.

So, I tried to picture what happened: He possibly floored out of a U-Turn and hit the gutter with my front left wheel, stuffing the tie rod, breaking an already possibly weak engine mount, and breaking the shaft. Because the broken shaft and tierods are on opposite sides, and it was only on the dyno for 4 hours, the whole time under my supervision. (IE: They didn't have it for days, I came and left with the car on the same day.) There is no point trying to make a claim though, but do tierods go from tight, to loose (and needing replacement) after a 10km drive without colliding with something? While at the same time breaking a mount and drive shaft?

Sorry but claiming this kind of thing won't happen. I suggest to ALL who love their cars, to be there when it's worked on/ran on dyno. If you're possibly going to lose an engine worth $30k+ in one day, it's worth that day off work to communicate and deal with the tuner.

Now although most tuners would already check themselves, but did your friend/you mention that it's running stock injectors etc? Communication is PARAMOUNT. My tuner had an issue, and instead of spending 20 mins chasing it down, he asked me a simply question (which I could answer) and he had the problem fixed in 30 seconds.

Communicate, ask questions. Get lots of printouts from the dyno, with HP/KW/Torque/RPM/AFR/Timing/etc etc etc. Really, a good tuner would give you these things to protect his ass. "Yes the AFR's were safe when it left, and you can see the dyno settings we used, etc"

Sorry for the loss, but use this as a platform to learn.

mate of mine was driving along in his 33 and had a tie rod come out of the tie rod end. we put it back in and it came out a short while later. he had never hit a gutter since he had had the car (a few years). the rod had just come a little bit loose and then once it had undone a bit and was about half out it just stripped the thread when he hit a bump in the road.

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