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Kenna802

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Hi there, I have a question for those people using the emanage ultimate in there vehicles. What power are u making and what mods have u done to the car. I am curious because not many people seem to wanna tune them. I have got an atr43g3 turbo with 600 cc injectors and would like to see what maps and mods people have done to there cars etc. I would like to get a map off another car that is similar to mine if possible thank u all

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SECURITY Grand Master

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They are good for what you're paying for but wouldn't you want the stability of a stand alone ecu if you're going to push the car above 250kw? And as you said it's not worth using one as you are limited with tuners.

Just a tip if you decide to keep it, don't bother with a map sensor. Keep using an AFM as the map sensor tables (to eliminate the AFM) are a bitch to get right.

Kenna802 Experienced

Kenna802

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Im hopefully going to get about 280 thats my plan I already have the unit and in the car. I have asked around a few tuners and 2 said they are a piece of shit but didnt know anything about them. One of them didnt even know that u DONT use a hand controller on them as they use a computer based software after that he said he would give it a go. The other 2 i contacted said they are a great piece of gear..........All i can gather is people just dont know how to use them Im really hoping that some one has my type of mods and i can get a rough map off them as its a bit of a pig to drive ( it currently has a remapped ecu for stock turbo fmic fp f/f exhaust ) so turbo very very laggy due to timing being retarded before boost comes on

scotty nm35 Grand Master

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I have one, only because there are no other ecu options like nistune. A good tuner can extract big power but it can drift a bit due to the stock ecu's mapping which is not a good idea at that level, and is one of the reasons I went e85 for safety. I have managed 300awkw so far.

Shame you aren't down in Melbourne, there are two tuners within a few k's of me willing to set them up, Trent (Status) and Cihan (Etuner), both very competent.

Kenna802 Experienced

Kenna802

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HI there I am aware of Trent as i have read his thread from what i can see he does a very good job I installed the emu and have figured how to change the afm and injector sizes and increase the lag time so it idles good. Its a bit hard up brissie way where some tuners will give it a go but not actually know how they work ( Oh please oh please does someone have the same mods as me lol )

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Kinkstaah

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I am forced (unhappily, but noone in the country can find an alternative..) to use one.. and my car setup will/is _SIMILAR_ to yours, but my car runs so poorly you surely don't want a map of this.

I was wondering if the piggyback is the reason it (mine) is so laggy, that or a really half-assed tune. :P

scotty nm35 Grand Master

scotty nm35

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I am forced (unhappily, but noone in the country can find an alternative..) to use one.. and my car setup will/is _SIMILAR_ to yours, but my car runs so poorly you surely don't want a map of this.

I was wondering if the piggyback is the reason it (mine) is so laggy, that or a really half-assed tune. :P

Must be the tune, the Ultimate is very capable in the right hands. Perhaps tuning the low end yourself is an option?

SECURITY Grand Master

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get a wideband, connect it. learn to use auto tune.

if you get familiar with the data logger you can get on the PPo2 website (http://ppo2performance.com/docs/?cat=4) and get the baseline software which takes your data logs and helps you fine tune your fuel map. its a very smart piece of kit for the emanage. i was one of the testers in its early stages and this guy has spent a LOAD of time and effort getting it right. keep in mind its still in its beta stage.

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Tony de Wonderful

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I have one, only because there are no other ecu options like nistune. A good tuner can extract big power but it can drift a bit due to the stock ecu's mapping which is not a good idea at that level, and is one of the reasons I went e85 for safety. I have managed 300awkw so far.

Shame you aren't down in Melbourne, there are two tuners within a few k's of me willing to set them up, Trent (Status) and Cihan (Etuner), both very competent.

What do you mean 'drift'? Is this because it only adjusts the stocks ECU's fueling and timing rather than having 'fixed' maps? The stock ECU is still free to do what it wants?!mellow.gif

Rolls Grand Master

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It will be better than stock, but it won't be good enough. Save the money on buying it and get a nistune and get that installed and tuned. The different will be quite large, it will also be far easier to tune and you will have a larger base of tuners to choose from.

What do you mean 'drift'? Is this because it only adjusts the stocks ECU's fueling and timing rather than having 'fixed' maps? The stock ECU is still free to do what it wants?!mellow.gif

Yeah but the stock ecu doesn't use many correction maps or on the fly tune adjustments so you can get away with piggy backs most of the time, still better to go full aftermarket/nistune though.

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I had one on my r33 gtst and it was great. For the price at that point in time I couldnt argue and the results were definately worth it. Now with the GTR I will either go NISTUNE or PFC.

Tony de Wonderful Veteran

Tony de Wonderful

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It will be better than stock, but it won't be good enough. Save the money on buying it and get a nistune and get that installed and tuned. The different will be quite large, it will also be far easier to tune and you will have a larger base of tuners to choose from.

Yeah but the stock ecu doesn't use many correction maps or on the fly tune adjustments so you can get away with piggy backs most of the time, still better to go full aftermarket/nistune though.

Nistune is just 16x16 maps and no provision for individual cylinder trims though? Slow as well only 8 bits.

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