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I don't think the issue is the numbers any more Duncan, I think it has more to do with getting it through the planning approval stage as the usual NIMBY attitude still prevails, even out in the sticks.

Look at all the issues Gary is having with residents around MDTC and that is well and truly in the middle of nowhere with very few residents even near the track. He at least managed to get it off the ground but for how long?

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There has been talk about a track at a couple of places up north including Wyong on the Central Coast. Last I heard they have trouble with approval because no-one wants it near them. A few people whinge and thats it, bad luck no track.

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I don't mind them building a track next to my place but I'm not sure they can fit one in surry hills? all the noise I've had is just pissed cnts leaving the brothels of a night, or bloody bible bashing protesters who keep up a 40 day a year 24hr a day protest outside the abortion clinic across the street. nothing like waking up at 2am to hear their chanting and candle waving bullshit. much rather listen to someone bouncing it off the armco (looking at you fatz).

yeah it is 100% on the cards ben...just sorting out a date. the conditions are still bullshit (ie we take the financial risk if it's not full, they make all the profit if it is full or overfull)

WSID is under new management, Read is gone, so maybe its time to approach WSID to organise another drag day!

thanks for the update ben. i'm a bit out of the loop on these things. glad to hear it. a change of management might bring about some positive change in the culture of the place. the way it was managed before was very poor in my opinion. especially the way they treated club hire not to mention the rife nepotism etc. for a facility that is backed by masses of government money and supported by money from club hire it didn't always behave in the public interest.

Back to E/C for a momemt as I couldn't care less about WSID.

I have been a member of the ARDC for some years now and much like every other car club most big decisions are made by the exec comittee with little input from members.

If the ARDC had asked me what I thought about the place I would have said,,,spend the taxpayers millions (7 I think) and the clubs 2 million on fixing the place. Bulldoze turn 2's hill and bulldoze corporate hill so spectators can actually see some more of the track. Move all the rubbish/landfill over to the tip,,,fill it up and close it down permanently.

Thats the big bugbear with the joint,,,you can't see most of the track. Build cement step type undercover smaller stands around the place so people have somewhere to sit and enjoy the racing without the heat and rain killing them. The other big problem is as usual with Govt depts,,,they build or approve housing ect with next to NO public transport at all. Try getting to E/C one day with a family on the cheap,,,it's not going to happen. People need to get to these venues cheaply,,,Oran parks new housing estate is a prime example,,,is there a rail link,,,is there a Bus link,,,,NO.

Personally I don't want E/C to change the track layout at all,,,I like it just how it is.

Cheers

Neil

yeah good point neil and I agree. everyone always whinges about poor spectator numbers at EC but the fact is there is only 1 stand and all you can see from it is turn 12, the straight and turn 1. the rest of the track may as well be underground. who wants to drag their family out there (only way to get there is drive), then pay big bucks to squat on a pile of landfill. you are absolutely right, get rid of all the bloody hills that obstruct viewing, build a few small, covered stands and people will come to watch. 1 day at eastern creek standing in the open can see you get burnt in the morning, wet in the arvo, then eaten by bugs in the early evening. not nice.

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