Jap_star Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Will attempt to make the scanner work tomorrow. Spoiling by 3. Full boost smack on 4. Change to the big can actuator should knock off 300ish rpm. What dyno is your 420nm at? Mine made 428nm stock turbo. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5834974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dohmar Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Will attempt to make the scanner work tomorrow. Spoiling by 3. Full boost smack on 4. Change to the big can actuator should knock off 300ish rpm. What dyno is your 420nm at? Mine made 428nm stock turbo. boostworx's dyno dynamics. i did 250kw at the last willall dyno day with a reported 670nm torque at the engine which i was told would be 400 odd my car is very much stock as I have to keep it legal for the sake of it being my daily. i dont hold any delusions of being a wicked track driver/drifter, I just like the way it runs esp when i do a nice spirited hills run. thats the main reason im after response really... cant care about track times or dyno figures at the end of the day. at most id be using the car for advanced driver training to make me suck less. cause lets face it, nobodys perfect > -D Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5834986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scandyflick Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 It wouldn't be easy. But I think Full Race have manifolds to suit. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5834989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberax Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 i dunno eh, these buggers spool from 3k and im getting 275kw/420nm torque at the wheels.... some fine tuning to the boost controller remains as well as cam gears but eh, its more than enough for a non-rambo daily driver like me I'd like to compare his powercurve to mine. Single vs double with only 100cc engine capacity difference. Would be interesting... -D Here...have a look at one of mine , from almost 2 years ago Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5834997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dohmar Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 It wouldn't be easy. But I think Full Race have manifolds to suit. legality is put before performance in my case (sadly) the 2860 series are certified as after factory replacements and can get thru regency with ease thats the other bonus - what makes those other turbos more special than the 2860s or the hks equivalents? -D Edit - this is my dyno sheet from last dyno day. Since then the head gasket has been replaced and all the associated plumbing (along with a good $1600 of troubleshooting at boostworx after the engine was reassembled - not just engine mind, entire fuel system and 4wd... long story, dont ask...) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5834999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scandyflick Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 what makes those other turbos more special than the 2860s or the hks equivalents? With the 6258 I'm looking at 2871R power with response on par if not better than a 2860RS. Throw in some cool shit like investment cast stainless exh housing, Ti alloy turbine, billet comp wheel, built in boost control and BOV, dual ceramic ball bearings in steel cages, huuuuuge internal waste gate, and a couple other rather cool things for not much more than what a 2871 retails for, and it starts looking like a winner. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5835028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dohmar Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 With the 6258 I'm looking at 2871R power with response on par if not better than a 2860RS. Throw in some cool shit like investment cast stainless exh housing, Ti alloy turbine, billet comp wheel, built in boost control and BOV, dual ceramic ball bearings in steel cages, huuuuuge internal waste gate, and a couple other rather cool things for not much more than what a 2871 retails for, and it starts looking like a winner. yeah i bet that all costs a bogload. and some daisy blue will defect me for it i reckon the 2860-5 is the best option for my situation. 90% street driving (hence response wanted, as well as legality being a priority) 10% driver training at lala (330kw from the -5 is supposedly easy to get, that is >plenty< for me) -D Edit - And to put in proportion, 330kw is what the last Ferrari Testarossa put out - I was a child of the 80s and base my power figures upon said cars Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5835053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scandyflick Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I guess in a TT application prices would start getting a bit silly. $3400 for turbos. Which isn't too bad, but then you'd need manifolds... For me though, it's great. It fits on the standard mani and clears p/s, a/c, and engine mount bracket. Exhaust will be difficult because of how close the exhaust v-band sits to the engine, but that's a problem for someone else. Mostly street and hills, occasional track. Response will likely be better than I had before. As for Regency... Meh. I have a daily. And it's just one more part I'll have to swap out. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5835065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dohmar Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I guess in a TT application prices would start getting a bit silly. $3400 for turbos. Which isn't too bad, but then you'd need manifolds... For me though, it's great. It fits on the standard mani and clears p/s, a/c, and engine mount bracket. Exhaust will be difficult because of how close the exhaust v-band sits to the engine, but that's a problem for someone else. Mostly street and hills, occasional track. Response will likely be better than I had before. As for Regency... Meh. I have a daily. And it's just one more part I'll have to swap out. And that is the dilemma. I've seen 2860-5 kits for $2k atm including the 14psi actuator, which means I can sell my N1's and actuator for around $1500 (which is what I paid and considering the car has been offroad for 6 months since I fit those n1's, they're barely run in.) The exhaust housings and sleeve bearings of n1's arent tops for performance, but they are legal. Just need to find someone who'd be happy with the close-to-300kw setup (i reckon they could get to 290kw with proper split dumps and front pipes), As it is, theyre doing 275 on a 21 yr old engine. 2860 -5 should be fine, unless the -7's are responsive enough. I just dont know. -D Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5835070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scandyflick Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Yeah... Price difference is due to the fact that the BW's are a clean sheet design that has only hit the market in the last few months, 2860's are 20+ year old architecture. Once they become a little more widespread, the price will drop significantly I reckon. As it is, I think I'm going to be the first SR in Australia running one. Is the $2k price brand new? If so, that's pretty f**king reasonable. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5835083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dohmar Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Yeah... Price difference is due to the fact that the BW's are a clean sheet design that has only hit the market in the last few months, 2860's are 20+ year old architecture. Once they become a little more widespread, the price will drop significantly I reckon. As it is, I think I'm going to be the first SR in Australia running one. Is the $2k price brand new? If so, that's pretty f**king reasonable. Yep. $2500 from most places but I know a joint that does em for $2k on our current exchange rate, including 14 psi actuators. I'm still running the stock gtr actuators and a profec B If they can get an engineers cert that theyre a legal swap in replacement, I'd hit it within a heartbeat. But I cant afford nonsense with the authorities so Ill aim to get the 2860-5s in 2 yrs unless those ones u quoted can be accepted -D Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5835111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTROY Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I paid $1250 deliverd for my 2860-5's with actuators from the US they are laggy as hell, full boost at about 5000rpm. typo ment $2150 delivered back a few years ago. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5835140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dohmar Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I paid $1250 deliverd for my 2860-5's with actuators from the US they are laggy as hell, full boost at about 5000rpm. are u serious? tt application? I thought -5's were less laggy than the -7s ? Maybe I should stick with the n1's.. they are so goddam awesome to plant the throttle and just hold on for dear life -D Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5835168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Sherlock Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 When are you on full boost with the n1s dohmar? I need to decide what will replace my stock ceramics and I'm happy with my power level (250) but I want response. I'm spooling 15psi at 4500rpm upwards dependent on weather. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5835176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTROY Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Yeah twin -5's, 316rwkw @ 18psi at 5000rpm. kicks in nice and hard Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5835195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dohmar Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 When are you on full boost with the n1s dohmar? I need to decide what will replace my stock ceramics and I'm happy with my power level (250) but I want response. I'm spooling 15psi at 4500rpm upwards dependent on weather. around 4k on full boost - it hits max boost very very quickly. if you're happy with ur current setup then u should buy my n1's when i upgrade heh -D Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5835199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Sherlock Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 For the right price Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5835206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dohmar Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 For the right price it'd be cheap - and they'd be street legal and have under 10k kms worth of use :0 -D Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5835210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Sherlock Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Sounds like a plan. Just have to n1 spec everything else now. Might keep my aircon though Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5835211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dohmar Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Sounds like a plan. Just have to n1 spec everything else now. Might keep my aircon though definately. if you're running a streeter then maybe u should cross notes with me, cause its been my MO for the last 4 yrs since I bought the R and somethings have worked well and others havent. max performance but only when legal is the MO. putting braking and handling before any engine mods mind you, I've done a load of things that I've had planned for yrs. It comes down to practicality and the amount of $ u got to get rid of. -D Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/365407-the-wasteland-2011-edition/page/10/#findComment-5835217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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