What Are We Squatting Here?

[Birds]

No it's not at all. The only reason everything thinks that is because no one trains legs as much as they should.

Most people are benching around 100kg, then struggle to squat 100kg. That is DISGUSTING!

If people actually trained like they should, 120 atg squats would still be warming up.

Oh I forgot we were all going to the gym for the same reasons as you...carry on...

[IOWNU]

1rm deadlift 245kg's at 78kg

Far out well done man!

I weigh a solid 17kgs more than you and your deadlift pwns mine by 25kg odd.

[IOWNU]

Oh I forgot we were all going to the gym for the same reasons as you...carry on...

Come on brah.

He's right, ppl that can bench 100kg but can't squat 100kg is just sad.

Sure we all don't want big legs, but people who are top heavy with pencil legs look pretty fugly.

[Husky33]

Oh I forgot we were all going to the gym for the same reasons as you...carry on...

So you obviously didnt read anything i said. Doesn't matter what you train for, train everything equally.

What do I go to the gym for if your so clever then?

I'm no powerlifter dude.

I lift weights, I do lots of circuits(bodyweight and weight), I do lots of long distance running and sprint work, I swim alot.

I train to be fit and strong at everything. Is that so much different to everyone else???

[Husky33]

Far out well done man!

I weigh a solid 17kgs more than you and your deadlift pwns mine by 25kg odd.

Yeah but i bench like a pansy

[Birds]

Come on brah.

He's right, ppl that can bench 100kg but can't squat 100kg is just sad.

Sure we all don't want big legs, but people who are top heavy with pencil legs look pretty fugly.

I never said people who are top heavy don't look silly. You do 20 reps of 120kg dumbell squats and you aren't going to end up with pencil legs. And what if your squats are done in conjunction with a heavy 45 degree leg press? Barbell squats are good, very good, but they aren't the be all and end all of leg exercise.

So you obviously didnt read anything i said. Doesn't matter what you train for, train everything equally.

What do I go to the gym for if your so clever then?

I'm no powerlifter dude.

I lift weights, I do lots of circuits(bodyweight and weight), I do lots of long distance running and sprint work, I swim alot.

I train to be fit and strong at everything. Is that so much different to everyone else???

Train everything equally? So a competitive long distance runner should be hitting the gym with a ton of bench press, building a nice strong upper body instead of minimising weight up top? You really have no idea. Yes, it is so much different to everyone else. If you can't see that everyone has different goals and ways to go about achieving them, then you're something of a narrow minded tool, living up to your reputation in previous threads.

[IOWNU]

I never said people who are top heavy don't look silly. You do 20 reps of 120kg dumbell squats and you aren't going to end up with pencil legs. And what if your squats are done in conjunction with a heavy 45 degree leg press? Barbell squats are good, very good, but they aren't the be all and end all of leg exercise.

Yeah but that's more than 100kgs lol.

My point was, if your squat isn't higher than your bench, something is wrong, the legs should be MUCH stronger than the functional muscles required to bench.

[Birds]

Well as I said, my gymnasium has 60kg dumbells...I don't know where the 100kg figure came from.

I agree, legs should be stronger than the muscles used during bench press. Not everything is about weight though...consider that you're doing twice as many reps as on bench, with 20 more kg. Legs have been shown to respond better to high reps than the rest of the muscle groups in the body, which is fine...it creates good endurance and in the end it's just another way to build up your legs. More than one way to **** a ****.

[Dani Boi]

Wow you guys are all doing over 100kg's and I'm only doing 50kg LOL, ahh well got to start somewhere .

How do you guys get a barbell above your head? I workout at home so I don't have a high rack to put it on

[NickR33]

try front squats, easier to get the bar there than on your back

your going to struggle to do the really heavy squatting at home with no rack but there are heaps of exercises to do with lighter weight... search squatting on youtube and you'll find lots of variations... dumbell squats as birds suggested, good when you have no spotter as you can just drop them if it gets a bit heavy...

split squats

overhead squats

one legged squats (good for low weight and core stability)

are you guys using straps to deadlift? I've never tried a 1rm on the deadlift but I do about 140kg for 6-8 no straps... I've also seen people put the bar down between each rep, might try this as usually my hands get tired before anything else

[NickR33]

forgot to add, to get the bar up to your shoulders for a front squat you might need to powerclean it... its also a great exercise for leg strength and overall explosiveness etc

[Birds]

one legged squats (good for low weight and core stability)

Brilliant! Should have mentioned this one before - another way to extend the lower weight of the dumbell squat. It will also be safer to do this exercise with dumbells than a bar.

[IOWNU]

are you guys using straps to deadlift? I've never tried a 1rm on the deadlift but I do about 140kg for 6-8 no straps... I've also seen people put the bar down between each rep, might try this as usually my hands get tired before anything else

No straps, no belt, just chalk.

I don't let the bar physically rest, it just 'clinks' the ground.

[Husky33]

Train everything equally? So a competitive long distance runner should be hitting the gym with a ton of bench press, building a nice strong upper body instead of minimising weight up top? You really have no idea. Yes, it is so much different to everyone else. If you can't see that everyone has different goals and ways to go about achieving them, then you're something of a narrow minded tool, living up to your reputation in previous threads.

Who said no one has different goals. I was basing my comment around general people that go the the gym and train to be big, strong and/or fit, ie 99% of the people on this forum.

I said train everything equally, and this is obviously related to your goal. A competetive runner will train every muscle he needs to run equally, same as any other athlete out there. If your goal is to get a big chest and thats it, then yes, train your chest, and train every muscle used to make your chest big equally. If you want to be all around strong and bit, then work everything equally, which is in reference to my other post.

You know what i mean, your just trying to nitpick for some reason, we are both on the same side here.

I know your a pt and all, but before you even started thinking about doing it it was running my own pt business for a few years, then went into strength and conditioning coaching for various athletes out there, which i did full time. I also studied nutrition and naturopathy, and worked full time in that also. I now work with some of the fittest and strongest guys going around. I also competed in olympic lifting and powerlifting a long time ago now...

So if you think I'm narrow minded think again.

[Husky33]

are you guys using straps to deadlift? I've never tried a 1rm on the deadlift but I do about 140kg for 6-8 no straps... I've also seen people put the bar down between each rep, might try this as usually my hands get tired before anything else

I use straps when im doing rack pulls, as im pulling more weight than i can deadlift. But with deadlift i'll just use chalk.

And a deadlift should be down stopping at each rep.

You'll gain more explosiveness off the floor if you lift it from a dead stop each time (hence the name deadlift).

I used to bounce my reps but since i changed a years ago now it did make a big difference when you go for 1rms.

[dezz]

160x5 before I stopped doing deads.. No straps gloves or chalk for me, and each rep is from a dead weight off the ground

[S T A R 3 3]

D/lifts:

220kgx4

Squats:

160x6.. but now focussing on box squats.. 120x4

[Husky33]

^^^ that's big deadlifting mate, good work.

[Flynnn]

D/lifts:

220kgx4

Squats:

160x6.. but now focussing on box squats.. 120x4

is that 6 reps or 6 sets?

Whats the point of doing low reps?

I do no less than 10 reps when squatting

[dezz]

No offense but under 100kg isn't a heavy squat, 10 reps would be easy. At weights like 150, 160 etc its a big difference. Mine was on a 5x5 strength program where if I got a 6th rep out, I'd increase the weight. So those 5 reps are basically 5 reps with nothing left in the tank after each set.