Gtt Abs Removal

[hermit-dragon]

ok, I want to remove my ABS system from my 98 GTT. Now, before anyone goes off about safety and all that, I am an old school driver. I dont trust a computer to do the driving for me... if any of you have read my earlier posts about the ECU and engine problems... I'm not sure if I wouldn't rather convert my car to carbs! LOL

Anyway, this is the newest car I've ever owned, and I admit that it's much more sophisticated than I'm used to. on early '90s cars and older, removing ABS is basically just a matter of yanking the components and computer and replacing the master cylinder and then pulling out the ABS light on the dash more or less.

My question is this: is it still the same with the R34? or does the ABS computer talk to the ECU and affect ECU functions?

I'd appreciate any constructive comments. I have better brake control than any computer I've come across (and I trust my brake modulation alot more too) and I want to save the couple of Kilos from pulling all the ABS junk. Thanks all

[GTSBoy]

ABS sensors are also part of the TCS system. I think Hanaldo on hear is currently having trouble making his car work after trying to delete the TCS. He's using a Nistuned ECU, which makes it possible, but apparently not necessarily trivial to do so. Other's who have done it have changed to different engine management, which elimiates that part of the problem.

I'm putting an R34 Neo using the factory ECU (Nistuned) into my R32 right now (well, not right now seeing as the car is nearly complete in Adelaide, but I'm in the sphincter of the universe right now!) And I wouldn't be surprised if I get DTC codes and so one from not having any TCS inputs into the ECU when I eventually get it fired up.

Here's my tip. Don't pull out the ABS system unless you are forced to, you'd just be making unpleasantness for yourself that isn't necessary. ABS isn't as evil as HICAS, it's a good thing in it's own right.

[Teiresias]

Not to sound non-constructive but doesn't ABS only kick in during "emergency breaking", so pretty much when you slam your foot down in panic or just generally really really hard it'll pump the breaks for you... Old school driver or not I don't really see the point in removing it unless that car is for track work, where perhaps would be the only justified place to removed it... But even then... Considering how much trouble it'll take to do after reading the last post...

[Legionnaire]

You can always pull ABS fuse and see if there's any noticable difference before doing any parts elimination.

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

You can always pull ABS fuse and see if there's any noticable difference before doing any parts elimination.

or just disconnect the ABS sensors on the front LHS, RHS and at the rear diff....

but why??? I will never buy a car without ABS ever again, it is god sent. If bicycles had ABS I would bike them

[hermit-dragon]

thanks for the replies. As for why? like I said, I want to be the one in control of when the braking happens at all time. I've had amature racing liscenes in both Canada and here in Hong Kong, and more than 10 years of on track and street drifting... I don't trust ABS or TCS or HICAS at the limits... they kick in when you LEAST want them to in that situation. I agree, ABS and traction control is great for the average driver (no offense to anyone who likes them here) but I don't panic brake when I'm behind the wheel, and I once had ABS lock up on me while going down a particularly steep mountan pass at about 90km/h sideways... I'm sure you can imagine how scary THAT would be seeing the edge of a cliff coming at you and you just lost control of your car.

I find I can brake alot harder and shorter right on the limit of locking than any ABS system I've come across.