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Hi Guys,

The last Motorkhana we ran seemed to be a great success!

SO we are deciding whether we hold another 1/2 day Motorkhana on either the 21s or 22nd of April. For hire of the facilities, we need to pay the total hire charge up front. It is a significant cost to the club and we need to know that if we make the commitment to hire, that we will have people attend!

The Day will be run as per the last one and at this point is open to 25 cars. The price will be $80 for members and $110 for non-members.

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keen as mustard.

Just wondering why it's so much more then last time, as well as where would it be held?

We are looking to hold it at Queensland Raceway again. Last time the QR management gave us access to the facilities at a greatly discounted price as it was our first motorkhana event and run as an introduction to Motorkhana's.

This time we have to pay full price for use of the facilities and for insurances. So, unfortunately, we have to raise entry prices to cover our costs as a club. This is also the reason we have a minimum number of entrants, so we can continue to put on great events!

as above.

still keen to go none the less!

|Hope that answers your questions!

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As long as I am not working I am keen! Although that weekend I think I will be because I have the following weekend off to move the rest of my stuff up from Canberra, I'll find out tomorrow... NSW and ACT Motorkhanas we need CAMS licence to participate, need it for this? If we do I need to renew mine... :)

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As long as I am not working I am keen! Although that weekend I think I will be because I have the following weekend off to move the rest of my stuff up from Canberra, I'll find out tomorrow... NSW and ACT Motorkhanas we need CAMS licence to participate, need it for this? If we do I need to renew mine... :)

Cams license not required Melly.

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Guys, WE ARE GO!

I got confirmation today for Sunday morning.

The Motorkhana will be held at Queensland Raceway.

Be there at 8.15 for an 8.30am start. We will have a target finish time of 12.30pm, but have been given use of the back track/skid pan 'until we are finished'.

For all entrants, please be aware that you will need to fill in an entry form, make payment, sign in and cars WILL be scrutineered for basic safety items, as per our last day, so PLEASE be on time.

All these things take up time and the longer you make us wait, the less time we have to have for fun on the pan.

P - Platers are welcome. Full lincenced drivers are welcome. People who have 1 point are welcome. Drivers on good behavior bonds are welcome. Oldies are welcome as long as the don't have a caravan in tow and sit in the right hand lane doing 90...

Passengers are welcome but helmets will need to be worn by both the Driver and Passenger. Spectators are welcome and encouraged to volunteer with starting/timing and cone retrieval.

If you have any questions about the day please feel free to contact me on 0421 973 558. If you are running late, please let me know before 8.15. If your mate who's entering is running late and you know, let me know, etc.

Having said all that, let's get out there and have some fun!!

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Guys, WE ARE GO!

I got confirmation today for Sunday morning.

The Motorkhana will be held at Queensland Raceway.

Be there at 8.15 for an 8.30am start. We will have a target finish time of 12.30pm, but have been given use of the back track/skid pan 'until we are finished'.

For all entrants, please be aware that you will need to fill in an entry form, make payment, sign in and cars WILL be scrutineered for basic safety items, as per our last day, so PLEASE be on time.

All these things take up time and the longer you make us wait, the less time we have to have for fun on the pan.

P - Platers are welcome. Full lincenced drivers are welcome. People who have 1 point are welcome. Drivers on good behavior bonds are welcome. Oldies are welcome as long as the don't have a caravan in tow and sit in the right hand lane doing 90...

Passengers are welcome but helmets will need to be worn by both the Driver and Passenger. Spectators are welcome and encouraged to volunteer with starting/timing and cone retrieval.

If you have any questions about the day please feel free to contact me on 0421 973 558. If you are running late, please let me know before 8.15. If your mate who's entering is running late and you know, let me know, etc.

Having said all that, let's get out there and have some fun!!

Sunday as in sunday today? thats a bit short notice =[

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