S15 Vs R34

[starwarz]

I just don't get P platers and insisting on skylines or silvias etc.

take the blinkers off your eyes mate.

go have a drive in a Renault Sport Clio 172.

1050kg

124kw

leather bolstered seats

xenon head lights

throw it in to a corner or 2 and see if you an even remember what a non turbo skyline or silvia is.

that is just one example of many good cars for P platers.

Unless you want to pose.. then my post is of no use to you.

Because not about the speed its about being part of this JDM thing,

[TTT]

Yes. Because being part of he jdm thing is more important than driving enjoyment. Poser for life yo!!

[starwarz]

Yes. Because being part of he jdm thing is more important than driving enjoyment. Poser for life yo!!

Dont need big power to have fun, car does not handicap that, if you have the hacking skills then you can have fun in 200hp RWD skyline.

[mad082]

being all "JDM fo life, yo" is all about posing. that is what it's all about. the image. if you wanted a fun car that wasn't turbo, a NA skyline would be well down my list. in fact, i don't think there would be any rwd cars in my top 5 NA cars (if on a budget at least). don't need rwd to have fun, unless your version of fun is doing fully kebab spec burnouts

[starwarz]

being all "JDM fo life, yo" is all about posing. that is what it's all about. the image. if you wanted a fun car that wasn't turbo, a NA skyline would be well down my list. in fact, i don't think there would be any rwd cars in my top 5 NA cars (if on a budget at least). don't need rwd to have fun, unless your version of fun is doing fully kebab spec burnouts

Somewhat True, but because you like the JDM image and your loyal to it does not make you a Poser, to be a poser you need to be an obnoxious tool about it.

[TTT]

correct.

which P platers in NON TURBO skylines are.

[Super Drager]

Both are shit slow, i'd be suprised if they could beat a V6 commodore on their best days. Wouldn't bother with trying to mod them for performance.

[starwarz]

correct.

which P platers in NON TURBO skylines are.

Some can be said by a lot of Turbo drivers.....im not taking your approach and saying all because that's just against logic, i know a R34 GTV owner who is not part of any car forum, does not care for the JDM scene and would make any parents proud with his driving. Simply bought it because it looked nice, low KMs and okay driving mileage...he wants a hatch back fuel efficient motor for his next car.

[Borci88]

correct.

which P platers in NON TURBO skylines are.

LOL and when you see indians in TURBO AUTO skylines with a huge bodykit and chromies blasting it down the street, thats not poser?

[Nee-san]

$1500 corolla, using all the money you will save during this period buy a 34 GT-R once on opens.

[sultanaz]

Both are shit slow, i'd be suprised if they could beat a V6 commodore on their best days. Wouldn't bother with trying to mod them for performance.

R34 May be neck and neck with a Commodore, but the Autech will definitely pull lengths on it.

[mad082]

won't 'pull lengths' on it, but will be a bit faster in some cases.

[mad082]

LOL and when you see indians in TURBO AUTO skylines with a huge bodykit and chromies blasting it down the street, thats not poser?

yeah they are posers too. most (not all) import owners in general are posers.

[Super Drager]

R34 May be neck and neck with a Commodore, but the Autech will definitely pull lengths on it.

From what i've seen personally i'd be suprised if an autech was much faster if at all then an NA R34. May just be bad drivers or a badly set up car, but i haven't seen them pull impressive times for NA's.

[Cowboy1600]

R34 May be neck and neck with a Commodore, but the Autech will definitely pull lengths on it.

S15 Autech - 121kw 1200kg

R34 GT-V - 140kw can't find weight, but GTT is 1410kg, so the GT-V should be a solid 50kgs less.

VY Commonwhore - 152kw 1520kgs.

Me thinks you're dreaming.

[mad082]

plus the power from the autech is up in the rev range, so bog it down a bit off the start and the commodore will be goooooooooone. same sort of principle applies between the 141kw corolla vs a SSS pulsar. 35kw difference in peak power, but in the real world they are about as fast as each other.

[Hadouken]

sss pulsar > everything

[TTT]

S15 Autech - 121kw 1200kg

R34 GT-V - 140kw can't find weight, but GTT is 1410kg, so the GT-V should be a solid 50kgs less.

VY Commonwhore - 152kw 1520kgs.

Me thinks you're dreaming.

Clio sport - 124kw 1050kg

lol.. and can take a corner or 2.

I don't know.. I just couldn't bring myeslf to own a lesser car.. ie buying a non turbo skyline (which mind you also has shitty brakes too compared to it's turbo model) when there are so many better options when you are restricted because of your license.

Heck - I'd choose a 1987 AE82 twin cam corolla over a non turbo skyvia of some sort.

Edited April 1, 2012 by GTST

[drunkn snail]

My na sticks with v6 commos unless there vy or newer, even then just wait till the twisties and I'll put them in there place haha. And to everyone saying get a shitbox till your opens, I have 4 years to save for a new car unless you get in huge debt

[sultanaz]

S15 Autech - 121kw 1200kg

R34 GT-V - 140kw can't find weight, but GTT is 1410kg, so the GT-V should be a solid 50kgs less.

VY Commonwhore - 152kw 1520kgs.

Me thinks you're dreaming.

well my mate had a Autech and he ran in the 14's , not quite sure if a NA Skyline can crack 14, its all been 15 with full interior. as for commy thats more a 15 second car too aint it ?

Correct me if im wrong