R32 Splits - Will I Notice The Difference

[R.3.2.G.T.R]

hi guys

i currently have alpine splits r installed in my 32, will focal 165kr make a noticeable difference?

[Carbon 34]

Yes

To your wallet

Not much in sound

Money would be better spent on sounddeadener or ?

Focal mids run 2 ohms which forces amps to run more power and get hotter , and tweeters run 8 ohms which lowers power of the amp ( crossovers can bring the ohm load back if you run passive)

Overrated brand for the cost IMO

so much so they have a new series with highly reduced cost coming out

Upgrade for type R cost half as much and sounds 4 times better but requires pro install and fabrication

[R.3.2.G.T.R]

can pickup 2nd hand set for around $300, will install dynamat at same time

One of the alpine type r splits I have is clipping at loud volume so thought about changing to something better but not at new prices

[Carbon 34]

Type R is overrated as well , many choices besides focal and alpine , lots of cheaper speakers sound better depending on your needs

Unless your brand loyal i would look and listen to a bunch before buying

For 300 used you can buy some kick ass new speakers and crossover parts and still have a bit for dynamat or pay for good install

Speakers dont clip , amp and pre amp signals do?

Speakers can crackle, rattle, scrape, distort from over driven coils puling the cone out too far

Type R suffer cone dragging problems the coils drag enough to sound like hell , sometimes its crust /rust / magnetic dust or underpowered distortion slowly burning the coils , the magnet gap feels crusty if you push it in slow and smoothe

But the amp or deck power is your clip problem or broken rca issues ,a failing amp , voltage dropping to low or your hearing is getting flogged and that is the speaker you can hear still

[R.3.2.G.T.R]

not brand loyal, just after something with good clarity, probably 2nd hand unit

with the alpine r, it has a small crease where it hit the speaker cover, will have do a custom mount out of mdf with the new install

what brands should i look at around the $300 mark 2nd hand??

[Carbon 34]

Buy new speakers for 300 , used can be dangerous unless you know the history , I wouldnt gamble on used

Take your fav music on a cd and listen to a bunch from different dealers with similar power as you have now , remember mp3 itunes music isnt a worthy test in most cases its really compressed and muffled or overprocessed

Not sure where your located to recommend anyone ?

and dont overlook jaycar vifa models , I'll send you xover specs if you go that route and feel able to mount correctly , a little fabrication can reap killer sound ( note jaycar sound deadener falls off in the heat so dont use that on upright surfaces )

Domt overlook kenwood exelon , pioneer has some great sound quality speakers now, JL , Hertz, Mb Quart really so many to choose just have a listen and haggle !!

[R.3.2.G.T.R]

thanks for your help, im based out in western sydney

done further reading and reviews - morel dotech ovation, although a little more pricey, seems to be very well regarded, what are your opinions on these speakers?

[Carbon 34]

Oh yes that is a great choice $$$$$

must be installed properly of they will sound crap

And fry even a little power will kill them , go visit a pro for sure

They last a lifetime if installed right and not underpowered with distortion

[R.3.2.G.T.R]

Oh yes that is a great choice $$$$$

must be installed properly of they will sound crap

And fry even a little power will kill them , go visit a pro for sure

They last a lifetime if installed right and not underpowered with distortion

any installer you recommend out my way (western syd), how bout carbon car system?

[krayzie32]

Carbon 34 - What are your thoughts on any of the sounstream offerings??

E.g. RF60C Reference Series...

http://www.soundmaster.com.au/Soundstream-RF-60C-6.5inch-Component-Speakers/RF60C/

[Carbon 34]

Carbon 34 - What are your thoughts on any of the sounstream offerings??

E.g. RF60C Reference Series...

http://www.soundmaster.com.au/Soundstream-RF-60C-6.5inch-Component-Speakers/RF60C/

I have 3 pairs of one of the brands that share the parts ( not made by soundstream) but exactly the same ( my power rating is 400rms but i have over 500 per channel on them ) 2000 just to splits

Yeah they're decent lol , I have mine from a sponsor so the choice was minimal options

If you shop wise you can find them cheaper still

Don't overlook earthquake , morel makes a cheaper setup now, mephis audio , arc audio , option audio , orion , rockford fosgate, Percision power , herz , even blaupunkt at a really low price point but sound ok ask chris rogers off here he sells blau and might be able to hook you up ?

Let your ears listen , poly cones, carbon cones , paper cones. And all the others sound different

And tweeters same deal , i prefer silk dome or titanium but Ive installed 7 dollar ea poly domes that sounded nice ( same ones high dollar speaker companies use for home)

So many choices lol

I have favorite companies but always open minded about new options , most of the car audio comes from asia now anyway !! Unless you get into premium models that are from usa or EU

Or morel from isreal via EU lol

So yes that is a nice option but beware those need a good membrane and well sealed door skins or they will sound poor and power handling will be 50 watts !!! the mids get flappy but its not a bad design its for fast transient response and deeper midbass just needs proper install

Edited July 6, 2012 by Carbon 34

[Crazy Xav]

If your in south adelaide, go see Adam at JB Noarlunga. give you a good deal if you know crazy xav JL audio splits, sound great! when its time to upgrade mine, They will definitely be up there on the list.

[R.3.2.G.T.R]

small update - bought morel dotech ovation component speakers

plan is to dynamat both doors, create an mdf speaker pods and get it installed by a pro shop.. who in western syd is recommended?