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In other news: vicroads is revoking the blanket ban on turbo/supercharged cars and reverting to the power/weight ratio.

100kw/tonne (or 125kw/tonne for cars with 4 seats and child restraint anchorages)

A victory for common sense. But not much else.

34 gtt's, 33 gtst's are still a no go.32 gtst coupes are out as well leaving the 32 gtst sedan open for Vic p platers.

TL:DR, The TAC did something logical for once

alex182 Mentor

alex182

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Whats the go with this ! R32 GTST on his P-Plates what are the politicians in Queensland smoking lol !

because its under the power/weight ratio. under 125/tonne. as i said in my post, vic is adopting the power/weight ratio rule as well. if it's under 100/tonne (or 125/tonne for a 4 seater), its legal for P-plates (thats in VIC). In QLD, its 125kw/tonne regardless i believe.

R34 GT-T, RB25DET NEO (206kw), Curb weight 1,410kg

206/1410 = 146kw/tonne = BANNED

R33 GTS-T, RB25DET (184kw), Curb Weight 1,390kg

184/1390 = 132kw/tonne = BANNED

R32 GTS-T (Coupe), RB20DET (158kw), Curb Weight 1,280

158/1280 = 123kw/tonne = A-OK for QLD but BANNED in VIC because 2-door

R32 GTS-T (Sedan), RB20DET (158kw), Curb Weight 1,300 (working off the approximation that sedan is 20kg heavier than coupe)

158/1300 = 121kw/tonne = A-OK for QLD & VIC

Disclaimer: OEM power outputs and weights coming from wikipedia. If anyone has any more reliable sources on factory power outputs and/or weights, i'd love to see them as i've found different answers for curb weights.

Also, does NSW go by the power/weight ratio or blanket ban?

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because its under the power/weight ratio. under 125/tonne. as i said in my post, vic is adopting the power/weight ratio rule as well. if it's under 100/tonne (or 125/tonne for a 4 seater), its legal for P-plates (thats in VIC). In QLD, its 125kw/tonne regardless i believe.

R34 GT-T, RB25DET NEO (206kw), Curb weight 1,410kg

206/1410 = 146kw/tonne = BANNED

R33 GTS-T, RB25DET (184kw), Curb Weight 1,390kg

184/1390 = 132kw/tonne = BANNED

R32 GTS-T (Coupe), RB20DET (158kw), Curb Weight 1,280

158/1280 = 123kw/tonne = A-OK for QLD but BANNED in VIC because 2-door

R32 GTS-T (Sedan), RB20DET (158kw), Curb Weight 1,300 (working off the approximation that sedan is 20kg heavier than coupe)

158/1300 = 121kw/tonne = A-OK for QLD & VIC

Disclaimer: OEM power outputs and weights coming from wikipedia. If anyone has any more reliable sources on factory power outputs and/or weights, i'd love to see them as i've found different answers for curb weights.

Also, does NSW go by the power/weight ratio or blanket ban?

I see thanks for the info !, however the power to weight ratio is going out the window soon as they start to modify ! would be interesting if police started using dyno's on p-platers who are running turbo cars, if they get sus about stealth mods. Im pretty sure NSW is just a blanket ban on anything with a turbo for a few exceptions like smart cars ! some NSW p-platers hoping that NSW adopt the victorian approach.

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Miguelone Grand Master

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because its under the power/weight ratio. under 125/tonne. as i said in my post, vic is adopting the power/weight ratio rule as well. if it's under 100/tonne (or 125/tonne for a 4 seater), its legal for P-plates (thats in VIC). In QLD, its 125kw/tonne regardless i believe.

R34 GT-T, RB25DET NEO (206kw), Curb weight 1,410kg

206/1410 = 146kw/tonne = BANNED

R33 GTS-T, RB25DET (184kw), Curb Weight 1,390kg

184/1390 = 132kw/tonne = BANNED

R32 GTS-T (Coupe), RB20DET (158kw), Curb Weight 1,280

158/1280 = 123kw/tonne = A-OK for QLD but BANNED in VIC because 2-door

R32 GTS-T (Sedan), RB20DET (158kw), Curb Weight 1,300 (working off the approximation that sedan is 20kg heavier than coupe)

158/1300 = 121kw/tonne = A-OK for QLD & VIC

Disclaimer: OEM power outputs and weights coming from wikipedia. If anyone has any more reliable sources on factory power outputs and/or weights, i'd love to see them as i've found different answers for curb weights.

Also, does NSW go by the power/weight ratio or blanket ban?

There will be different curb weights, even the factory workshop ,manuals have wildly varying weights for the same model depending on fitted options.

This 4 door 33 is going cheap. Non turbo.

:(

Miguelone Grand Master

Miguelone

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^ LOL

I reckon that Camry can keep up with a N/A skyline in traffic light GP... :ninja:

It certainly can't on paper.

Camry

133 bhp (99 kW) at 5,400 rpm

147 lb·ft (199 N·m) at 4,400 rpm

Weight 1361kg

Power to weight

72kw/tonne

Skyline

140 kW/190 PS (180 - 200 hp ) @ 6000 rpm

255 N·m (26.0 kgf·m) @ 4000 rpm)

Weight 1430kg

Power to weight

97kw/tonne

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R TUNE Mentor

R TUNE

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My 2c,

My first car was a R31 skyline 1989 series 3. You should be able to pic em up with mods for around 3k. Mine ended up with 120rwkw from the n/a rb30 and if you don't touch the outside cops most Likly won't look at you. Plus if you won't space can get a wagon version. Was a really good car to learn on my p's and now have up graded to a 32gtst sedan

Bronx Mentor

Bronx

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When i was a p plater, i had a mk2 golf gti and got into n/a tuning, before i finished tuning the entire car fully, i went from 100hp atw to 145hp atw.

I went into cams, porting and polishing, exhaust setup, compression and finally ecu tuning.

I never got round to forging the engine and drive train setup.

Car had a set of bilstein shocks and springs in it and some high performance pads.

This was a 1.8l 8v engine, so not as bad. And all up i threw $3k into it.

My cousin had a mk2 1.8l 16v and that thing from factory had 139hp atw. Pretty damn impressive.

In my oppinion, nothing sounds better than a properly built N/A engine

kawasakirider Grand Master

kawasakirider

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My ute is p plate legal and has 200 RWHP which is close to 150kw, a locker and it's manual, it's fairly fun, pm me if you wanna buy it ;). I considered a non turbo skyline on my p's but decided it wasn't worth it. The time goes by quicker than you think.

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