r31 skyline

[racsov500]

just want to get some facts straight.

The r31 skyline is pretty much the pintara, which hade a L20b engine. Nissan australia based the pintara and skyline on the japanese version. The skyline is basically the same car as the pintara exept an rb30de and different tail lights and frount styling (in the 3 series). The japanese version had the turbo rb30det and similar tail lights to the aussie one, but with the no plastic covers, and projector headlights. the japanese only had the gts1 and gts2.

correct me if im wrong.

oh, and does the local r31 have 4 or 5 stud rotors?

thanks

[xRHETTx]

Japanese GTS-x r31 skylines had Rb20DET engines, there is no factory car that has an RB30DET engine. The only turbo RB30 is the engine in the VL Commodore turbo which was a RB30ET.

The GTS1 and GTS2 are australian.

Local R31 have 4 studs, i think that turbo jap R31 have 5 studs. Jap r31 coupes and the 4 door passage have pillarless doors.

Go to www.r31skylineclub.com , you will probably get a better response over there than here if ur talking about r31s.

[StuiE]

The Pintara had a CA20E, and it (the car) was based on the aussie skyline, the only differences are: Grille/no driving lights, no centre garnish between rear taillights on sedans, aswell as the engine, gearbox and Diff (4.11 25spline instead of 3.7 or 3.889 28spline with some LSD) Interior is exactly the same.

I thought Imports had 4studs? I know of at least one that has 4 stud, maybe they were easier to convert to 5 stud so most have been changed? dunno.

Jap had GTS 2door and 4door, GTS-X 2door, GTS-R 2door, PassageGT 4door, plus a load of cooking model non-turbo rb20s that we dont see much of here (cos their shit).

Aus had Exec, GX, GXE, Silhouette, Ti and Silhouette GTS

All had RB30E's, GTS1 (white) had 130kw and GTS2 had 140kw.

also, the aussie cars had live axle diffs, and are prone to whining, and are pretty crappy considering the imports hav R180s and R200s.

...also, R31skylineclub is good

[Adam_RSX]

Jap R31's had 4 stud hubs.

Passage is pillarless, R31 coupes are not. R30 coupes are though

Rhett and gtr69 have covered pretty much everything else.

You're correct in stating that the Pintara did not get the S3 update

[SKY031]

Everything you could possibly want to know about the R31 Skyline and R31 Pintara, models, series, series differences, body styling/types, factory colours, motor types, body parts etc etc etc can be found in this thread: R31 series

[slip]

Whoever/wherever you got all that info is a pretty dud source.

[SKY031]

Whoever/wherever you got all that info is a pretty dud source.

Please explain?

[slip]

i was talking to the guy who started the thread.

[JezR31]

yea there are 4-5 mistakes in his post.

[slip]

he got 1 thing right - the aussie version is based on the import.

[racsov500]

hey, i said correct me if im wrong!

im getting this from looking at them, i don't have one- yet

thanks all for clearing up some facts. hmm.

[racsov500]

here's a quote from a book called "australian cars" i found-

"Nissan also wanted to be in on the act* , especially since it was supplying the engines and transmisions for the commodore. Its solution was to the problem of building a family car was to take its four cylider medium sized pintara, fit it with a six cylinder engine, rename the car skyline, and market it as a larger car. this seemed to have worked, as........"

My point is that the pintara was based on the JDM skyline, and the aussie r31 was based on the pintara. Is this right?

[racsov500]

here's a quote from a book called "australian cars" i found-

"Nissan also wanted to be in on the act* , especially since it was supplying the engines and transmisions for the commodore. Its solution was to the problem of building a family car was to take its four cylider medium sized pintara, fit it with a six cylinder engine, rename the car skyline, and market it as a larger car. this seemed to have worked, as........"

My point is that the pintara was based on the JDM skyline, and the aussie r31 was based on the pintara. Is this right?

*= earlier before this statement, the book was saying about how there was a battle between holden, ford and mistubishi.

[hako]

hmm interesting

nissan would have decided on making a 6cyl skyline long before it sold the engine to holden

so that bits wrong

as for pintara being the basis for oz skyline..well i guess its true in some ways and wrong in others, it had the styling of the 1985 japanese skyline, without its pillarless design, so i guess it was a bit of both pintara and skyline.

[hako]

also to answer some questions from your first post

only the 1985,86 and very early 87 had "uncovered" tail lights, the rest had series3 oz style lights. The difference is not just the smoked plastic cover, the lenses and reflectors are quite different to each other. Similarly, not all import r31s had projector headlights, the 85 series2 style obviously did not, and the 1986 cars also missed out, having standard headlights, like those on australian s3 r31s.

gtr69 - as far as i know all imports had r200

just for your own interest racsov500.... my own car is a 1986 gts coupe, with updated projector headlights and original gts uncovered tail lights (black as opposed to passage grey). It also has the updated front grille, with GTS monogrammed into the left hand side. The 1986 versions had a central GTS badge. These cars came with the NICS rb20det, which i binned for a r32 rb20det silvertop.

i hope u succeed in owning your own r31 in the next few years

[StuiE]

I have heard of a PassageGT with a NICS that had a R180, I thought all imports with NICS RB20s had R180s, or at least the Passages :whatsthat

Is your car black over grey and have a yellow sticker by any chance, hako?

[hako]

mine was originally nics and has a r200

nope mine is white

[R31Nismoid]

R31 coupes have the R200.

[SKY031]

only the 1985,86 and very early 87 had "uncovered" tail lights, the rest had series3 oz style lights.

Not to forget the australian series 1 & 2 skylines which had the striped tail lights.

[shane_cummings]

Here's something interesting that just hit me, has anyone seen a japanese r31 without the series 3 healights/guards? Can't say I have.

Could the s1 & 2 fronts be australian only?

I'm looking to do a diff converion to my s3 wagon. Some skyline sedans had a h195 live rear end. Don't hear about them much though.

To save you the reply, I know the springs mount differntly on the wagons, just haven't had a good look at a h195 to see if it will be doable yet.