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G'day folks, just thought I would ask on here if its worthwhile selling my current Cusco (earlier model, no damper adjustment) coilovers and getting a set of BC BRs.

The reason being my ride is too hard and bumpy for the street, even after swapping for 3kgs lighter springs. I would like something a bit comfortable, not bumpy and bouncing over everything and with a lot more give, absorption and hence more traction aswl. The current Cuscos -I can barely push the car downwards less than half a centimetre by hand. And my car is hardly what you would call too low - I can just stick my fingers in between the tyres and the guards.

Who has experienced both the BCs and top quality but harsher Jap items like the Cuscos and what is the impression? Will the BCs with softest damper adjustment be a huge improvement?

thanks Ron

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I've driven the harder Cuscos and currently run the BCBR set to soft with the 8kg 6kg combo and mine is like driving stock in comparison to the other GTT!

It is still firm but certainly an improvement.

A little bit off topic, but i'm having the same deal with my GReddy coilovers. Been looking at getting Tein SuperStreets to replace anyone able to tell me what they're like?

Haha yep can tell you that one too as i ran them in my car :P I changed to the BC BR as my Tein Super Streets collapsed in the rear!

The Tein were nice for daily driving, a lot like the BC BR, i would nearly say they were smoother but both are nice to drive on :)

Thanks GeeTeeTee, I'm looking at this option, just tired of my hard ride man ... :(

I would have thought the optimal street springs would be more like 6kgs / 4kgs though.

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the BC's will be a massive improvment over the cusco's. ages ago i had tein Hr's in my car about 400 kg srpings no damper adj etc just like yours, fitted BC's to my girl friends at the time skyline, really nice. not too harsh, and just felt better in every way. fitted aus del Tein SS's and they didnt feel as good as the BC's which burnt any faith i had in tein. maybe the high end stuff that is rebuilt by racepace is good, but anything less than their top shelf is not much chop. BC's are really good for the money, and after a lot of kays still going as good as the day they came out of the box.

Haha yep can tell you that one too as i ran them in my car :P I changed to the BC BR as my Tein Super Streets collapsed in the rear!

The Tein were nice for daily driving, a lot like the BC BR, i would nearly say they were smoother but both are nice to drive on :)

Thanks! Only reason i'm even thinking of getting tein is due working at Supercheap, So i can grab them at cost price + 10% They work out to be the same as BC coilovers pretty much.

Thanks! Only reason i'm even thinking of getting tein is due working at Supercheap, So i can grab them at cost price + 10% They work out to be the same as BC coilovers pretty much.

Not bad :)

the BC's will be a massive improvment over the cusco's. ages ago i had tein Hr's in my car about 400 kg srpings no damper adj etc just like yours, fitted BC's to my girl friends at the time skyline, really nice. not too harsh, and just felt better in every way. fitted aus del Tein SS's and they didnt feel as good as the BC's which burnt any faith i had in tein. maybe the high end stuff that is rebuilt by racepace is good, but anything less than their top shelf is not much chop. BC's are really good for the money, and after a lot of kays still going as good as the day they came out of the box.

I hope you had 400 lbs springs instead of 400 kg springs lol.

Hey GeeTeeTee are you able to tell me roughly how many mm or cm you can push the car down with your hands/part body weight with the BC coilovers fitted? I can barely push down 1mm, maybe 2mm if lucky with the Cuscos (not half a cm as I thought). Im about 83kgs body weight btw.

Hey GeeTeeTee are you able to tell me roughly how many mm or cm you can push the car down with your hands/part body weight with the BC coilovers fitted? I can barely push down 1mm, maybe 2mm if lucky with the Cuscos (not half a cm as I thought). Im about 83kgs body weight btw.

Lol well i am over 100kg so even a brick wall moves when i press down on it!

Mine is not like a rock and does have some travel! Look at the Texi pics, it still compressed pretty hard when cornering!

Personal opinion is that unless you plan on slamming/raising your car every other weekend, and stiffening/softening it for the track/drags/drifting every other weekend also, coilovers are not suitable!

A nice set of Bilsteins and king springs (or, go JDM and buy espelir, RSR, ohlins, cusco even, eibach - all springs) will be much better for a pure street car. I have Bilsteins and king springs. Great ride.

+1 for Bilstein for street use only (had this in my 32 gtr) but Coil Over are must even once a year track day. I've recently fitted DGR coil overs from 999 auto in Sydney and I must say I was very impressed with soft and hard setting. This was 100% improvement over just lowered with king springs (previous owner).

For just a grand cant go wrong even with BC BR I would imagine as they're all now made in Taiwan.

Personal opinion is that unless you plan on slamming/raising your car every other weekend, and stiffening/softening it for the track/drags/drifting every other weekend also, coilovers are not suitable!

A nice set of Bilsteins and king springs (or, go JDM and buy espelir, RSR, ohlins, cusco even, eibach - all springs) will be much better for a pure street car. I have Bilsteins and king springs. Great ride.

Bilsteins not a good idea as you cannot adjust ride height, a good streetable coilover is what I am looking at, just wondering if its worth the extra coin- ie how much a difference from my current Cusco coilovers which are just rock hard

HSD AD, think they have an R34 model. Very comfortable.

I wanna replace my coilovers as they're getting a bit old and non height adjustable, I was talking to someone a few weeks ago and got swayed onto HSD's not sure if there are multiple types of them? They just said get HSD. Anything you can kinda tell me about them? I wanna do some track and have it as a weekend car, so can be a bit stiff. They also suggested spring rate of

10kg front and 6kg rear. But I don't know much on coilovers so I wouldn't know if that would be good or not. Any help would be great!

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