R34Gtt Cusco Coilovers Vs Bc Br

[niZmO_Man]

10kg/mm springs would be shocking on the public roads. Unless you live in an area with smooth roads.

Jump onto the Otomoto website and have a look at their range. HSD HR (what they usually sell) will be fine. 8kg/7kg (f/r) is plenty stiff. If you want less roll, install bigger anti-roll bars on your car. You can also order alternative spring rates.

[RBwonga]

Cheers for the reply, Just checked the site out, they are at a pretty good price at $1299. I think I read earlier in the thread that up had some? If you do, how do you find them for track and street?

Cheers, Chris

[rondofj]

I have been reading up quite some threads now and looks like Bilstein shocks with lowered King or Whiteline springs is great for the street. What I would like to know is what other parts I need to get like camber/caster tops, bump stops etc?

This looks like a more expensive option than BC BR coilovers from Street To Track at $1150, but the BC BRs would be much stiffer right - even with 6/4kg front/rear springs and softest damper settings?

Where is the cheapest to get Bilsteins, the tops and springs and which Bilsteins? Are KYB shocks even a consideration, its purely a street car, needs to be comfy, good handling- I need lots TRACTION aswl- and lower than stock..cheers

[GTSBoy]

It's a Skyline. You don't need any fancy tops. They are suspension units, not struts. Caster, camber etc are all set elsewhere in the suspension.

Yes, even the heaviest Kings Springs are still less than the 6/4 rates on the BCs.

You need to get Bilstein B6 dampers.

KYB are not really an option. The KYB twin tubes are not comparable with the good Bilsteins. KYB adjustables are not an awesome adjustable. I have a pair of KYB twins in the rear of my car. Have had for years and years. They are on the list of things to change.

[rondofj]

Thanks mate, I meant the Bilsteins or any shocks dont come with the bump stops and top plate/washers that bolts to the chasis right? Maybe I could re-use my Cusco ones if they fit.. :S Is it ok to get used Bilsteins? Probably on this forum itself.

[darksky34]

Thanks mate, I meant the Bilsteins or any shocks dont come with the bump stops and top plate/washers that bolts to the chasis right? Maybe I could re-use my Cusco ones if they fit.. :S Is it ok to get used Bilsteins? Probably on this forum itself.

from memory, the Bilstein B6 will just reuse the stock bump stops and if not i think your mechanic should be able to source these easily. I think used bilsteins is fine BUT as with any second hand coilovers/shocks, you really need to know how much wear they've had, how old, how many KM etc. Get your Bilsteins from Gary (SK), i think his contact details are somewhere around on this forum, he has direct contacts there - i got mine all 4 delivered for approx 1000$ a few months ago and that was when the AUD was on top, now, i don't know how much it'll be. but give him a yell.

King springs are around 300$ more, so all up, it should cost ~1400$ give or take.

[rondofj]

Thanks darksky, I just called Heasemans -$620 for a PAIR of Bilsteins for R34, then I have to get bumpstops, springs, shock top plates from a wrecker etc. Looking at 1600-1700ish already just to get more traction out of my setup. Not worth it imho, I am still rather keen on the Billies though. BC BRs at 1150 would be much better value but maybe stiffer even on softest setting. Wonder how 'rubbish' KYBs are compared to Bilsteins if Im forced to go down that way. The guy at Heaseman's told me my ride height is determined by the springs and not the shocks, I did think the shocks also play a small part in height reduction from stock :S

[GTSBoy]

I was happy with my KYBs when they went in....but I've driven a very similar car on Bilsteins all around (I have them up front), and that is what I would prefer.

[Grimesy]

I have Bilsteins with king springs all round in my R33, i got them organized through GSL RallySport on here. I think i got them for roughly $1200 when they had a deal going on. They might be able to help out.

Really nice especially compared to stock, have been in a few cars which have your typical jap coilovers and they are alot smoother. But still nice and firm with out being over the top, however i did do a major overhaul when i got them installed with sway bars and bushes all round so its hard to tell how much each item did in terms of steering response.

[mystery_kid]

has anyone here had any experience with Blitz ZZR coilovers? i've read a few good reviews on other sites regarding their streetability

[darksky34]

rondofj, contact Gary! he will give you a quote for all the items you need - just tell him what you want.

mystery kid, i have spoken to some members here who have had ZZRs in their car, they said it was fine for streeting, however i have also spoken to mechanics who told me that ZZRs are same as BC BR just painted differently - how much better would you expect their suspension to be, at the same price?

[niZmO_Man]

I have been reading up quite some threads now and looks like Bilstein shocks with lowered King or Whiteline springs is great for the street. What I would like to know is what other parts I need to get like camber/caster tops, bump stops etc?

This looks like a more expensive option than BC BR coilovers from Street To Track at $1150, but the BC BRs would be much stiffer right - even with 6/4kg front/rear springs and softest damper settings?

Where is the cheapest to get Bilsteins, the tops and springs and which Bilsteins? Are KYB shocks even a consideration, its purely a street car, needs to be comfy, good handling- I need lots TRACTION aswl- and lower than stock..cheers

http://www.otomoto.com.au/p/8472344/hsd-ad-type-coliovers-for-skyline-er34.html

These are heaps comfortable on Sydney roads (compared to the stiffer stuff, including the Blitz ones from JustJap). HSD AD is on S15 and street only. Blitz ZZ-R on S14 (think they're 8kg/6kg f/r) and car is street/track. For road only, AD for sure (if they made them for GT-R I would have them right now). If you're going to take it to the track or want a "stiff" setup, then HSD HR/BC BR/Blitz ZZ-R. All for <$1,500

Bilstein is more expensive but you get what you pay for. Their low range control is really good (ripple control) mainly due to the large piston diameter. If you can afford it, then get them.

[rondofj]

Hey Nizmoman thanks for the heads up, wherebouts are you in Sydney do you mind me checking your car out with the HSD AD, maybe in the weekend- I would really like to take a short ride in any Skyline/Silvia with either HSD/BC coilovers or Bilstein struts. I'm in Parra, can drive up to any kind fellow who will allow me to get a feel for his suspension setup haha.. Just need to compare against my current Cuscos and get what I need after trying..

[niZmO_Man]

Sorry man, should've mentioned that the cars I mentioned are my friends. I have old Ohlins dampers and Eibach springs on my GT-R. Also have flogged out upper front arms so the experience isn't pleasant.

S15 mate has the HSD AD dampers on full hard and it's still pretty comfy (on par with the Blitz on soft on S14 mate's car).

Trust me, the AD will be better than any random Jap suspension for Sydney. I couldn't believe the ADs were that soft, perfect for street (good body control and ripple control). Plus, it's a thousand bucks. Wind it up and down until you're happy with height. Win in; go for it!