luke gtr Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 only the one rod looks to have heat damage. so, id say blocked oil feed to that rod. then bearing shredded. and those pieces have gone through the rest of the motor. this has caused the damage to the other bearings. seems like this would be possible. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6948295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertPaulson Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Looks like someone poured sand in the motor, no way should a 2000mile engine look that bad. Something has been floating around in there by the looks of it It looks nothing like sand damage Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6948299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertPaulson Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 The heat damage is consistent with running for a very long time after the bearing has suffered complete failure. You've had a temporary starvation of oil at some point. Every one of those bearings shows it. The mains are polished and the bigends definitely show it. The bearings for cyls 1 & 6 are going to be the worst because they are the last in line to get fed oil from the main gallery in the crankshaft. The mains don't suffer the hammering because there is minimal lateral loads unless a missfire or detonation occurs. That's why they are just polished. The rest of the big end bearings partially survived because when oil supply was regained, they continued to be lubricated. 1 more second without oil and #6 would have looked like #1 does and another 3 seconds and the rest would look like #6 does now or worse. There is only 0.0001" difference between what #6 looks like and what #4 & #5 look like. That's all it takes. The damage was done and then you continued to drive it for what looks like maybe 1000 miles. You probably didn't hear it due to exhaust noise and the fact you might have been relatively gentle on your new engine. It's disconcerting that the oil pump hasn't failed. That would be an easy find. Are you sure there is no crack in the inner or outer gear? You have to look very closely (by the sounds of your descriptions you know what you're doing) Also measure the outer gear in 6 places to make sure it's still round as well as the inner gear if you can. I don't think this is going to be the cause though. Any idea what clearances were run? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6948305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted July 29, 2013 Author Share Posted July 29, 2013 Dont know the clearance specs yet. I will look at the oil pump closer today. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6948554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted July 29, 2013 Author Share Posted July 29, 2013 The only thing I did was put a few shims on the oil pump to back off some of the pressure. I had it down to 50 at idle and above 100 at 3200. Before it was idling at 80-90psi. Could that have done anything? I did that about 500 miles ago. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6948622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I thought shimmng it increased pressure as it increases preload ob the the relief valve. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6948691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted July 29, 2013 Author Share Posted July 29, 2013 Anyone have the part number on a new RB30 crankshaft? is 12200-67S06- correct? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6948727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke gtr Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I thought shimmng it increased pressure as it increases preload ob the the relief valve.shimming the spring, yes.shimming the plug, no. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6948728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted July 29, 2013 Author Share Posted July 29, 2013 you can put a shim (washer) under the head of the bolt and it will back it off. Not a shim under the spring. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6948729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted July 29, 2013 Author Share Posted July 29, 2013 Looks like i can get a Nitto stock rb30 stroke crank for around the 4 grand range. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6948745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundboyracer Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Definitely a oil problem. Personally I'd go with a junker motor and go with some bolt ons. I'm that anal about engine builds. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6948787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 you can put a shim (washer) under the head of the bolt and it will back it off. Not a shim under the spring. of course. Was a bit early in the morning for me!Such a shame to see the damage man. All the best. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6948940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYTSKY Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 You can get stock Rb30 cranks here for a cup of coffee plus shipping. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6949080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 Wanna help me source one? Im way the hell across the world Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6949670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon-S14 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 i got 2-3 sitting around here haha Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6949806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke gtr Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 You can get stock Rb30 cranks here for a cup of coffee plus shipping.where? I couldn't find any that cheap. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6949808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 coffee or cranks lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6949925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XKLABA Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 i got a whole running rb30 for $50, kept the block and crank and recycled the rest was once given a complete bottom end before 30s where done in GTRs and scraped the idea and binned the block that is a sweeeeeet Z, would love to have one with a 2630 in it, mad skids every thing that needs to be said has been about the damage, it def looks like oil supply issue where it be a air surge or not enough flow to the bottom end Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6950666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 everything's more expensive in Australia, except rb30s! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6950685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.I.P.S NZ Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I agree it has been an oil supply problem then continuing to drive, I supplied just a bare short block and had no input into anything else, such a shame for such a nice car and a forged bottom end. There's a few things of concern I have seen in the pictures and I've been over everything with the owner in about 50 e-mails over the last few days and am more than happy to help get him going again, Rob Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/429382-spun-rod-bearing-in-fully-built-rb30/page/2/#findComment-6951258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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