Mugabetown - Whoretownin' At It's Worst.

[TREGTR]

Hey guys TAFE is boring phasa diagrams

Are you studying material engineering?

[MagicMikeZ32]

Shit heaps are more dangerous, than driving a well modified and legal car. If you have a car you like, you're less likely to trash it. Also, there appears to be a misconception that P plate drivers all have the same experience, and haven't already participated for many years in motorsport.

No rant. good contribution. Some P platers are legally racing years before they get their P's. They have even more powerful race cars and are surrounded by people seeing the red mist of racing.

Plenty of people in times gone by learnt to drive in shit heaps and survived. Giving a new driver a high powered or modified car is crazy talk. Give them something slow and old or something slow and new.

Driver education is the key but that isn't going to happen. If everyone learnt to drive to the conditions (including the condition of the car they are in) the world would be a better place.

A very, very small minority of new l and p plate drivers have ever/will ever be involved in some for of motorsport.

[HiveFleetAbyss]

Pretty hot in the workshop today but pushing through with out the fan in atm.

[dubchick95]

Are you studying material engineering?

Nahh I'm an apprentice sparky

[TREGTR]

Plenty of people in times gone by learnt to drive in shit heaps and survived. Giving a new driver a high powered or modified car is crazy talk. Give them something slow and old or something slow and new.

Driver education is the key but that isn't going to happen. If everyone learnt to drive to the conditions (including the condition of the car they are in) the world would be a better place.

A very, very small minority of new l and p plate drivers have ever/will ever be involved in some for of motorsport.

Converse is true of ppl driving modified cars. My first was R32 GTR. If they follow the road rules and legally modify all will be well.

Driver ed is key, but why won't it happen?

Many have go cart, dirt bike or farm experience already though.

[TREGTR]

Nahh I'm an apprentice sparky

nice

[Smity42]

Sh*t heaps are more dangerous, than driving a well modified and legal car. If you have a car you like, you're less likely to trash it.

I hate Sh*t heaps on the road too... I wish cops would spend more time worry about them rather than targeting nicely modified imports.

Yes, I realise that plenty of modified imports are sh*theaps too, and I have no problem with those ones being targeted.

Also, there appears to be a misconception that P plate drivers all have the same experience, and haven't already participated for many years in motorsport.

No rant. good contribution. Some P platers are legally racing years before they get their P's. They have even more powerful race cars and are surrounded by people seeing the red mist of racing.

Some, sure. There are exceptions to any rule. But the MAJORITY of P platers won't be in this group.

Those P platers that are in this group... tough cookies. They get to have their fun driving when their doing their motorsport. They don't NEED to have a high powered car on the street, and there's no reason they can't abide by the same rules as everyone else for the 3 years that they are on their P's.

I've done a fair bit of motorsport and rate myself to be able to drive better than the majority of open licence drivers (ie, the huge percentage of the population that's never driven on a racetrack), but when I'm driving on the street I have to abide by all the same laws as them. So for P platers that have done motorsport, it's the same deal.

Hoon laws, I know a bit about, as I was in the NSW Attorney General's Criminal Law Review Division at the time they were being drafted. Hoon laws stop errant driving behaviour, not limit car modification. They were a misconceived law and I can assure you the people drafting and approving them do not know the difference between a VN V6 Sh*tbox on bald tyres with clear coat flaking off driven by some Trevor doing a burnout and a neat GTR.

Laws are based on perceptions of what needs to be done to address a problem, they are not always rightly made. I personally have issues with crushing cars for any reason, because I see this as a governmental infringement on peoples' private property possession rights. The Crown wants them they can buy them - I cite buying Indonesian fishing boats as a case in point.

I have plenty of issues with the hoon laws as well, but that's another topic...

[TREGTR]

All good points. I agree driver ed is key

[dubchick95]

Next subject!!

[Smity42]

yep more driver ed certainly wouldn't go astray

the flip side of the coin of course is that some people are going to be terrible drivers no matter how much training you give them or how much experience they get... they're just always going to be useless

[TREGTR]

yep more driver ed certainly wouldn't go astray

the flip side of the coin of course is that some people are going to be terrible drivers no matter how much training you give them or how much experience they get... they're just always going to be useless

Oh so true! lol

Next subject!!

What's it going to be?

[olloSKYLINEollo]

Next subject!!

My gtr will be going to a new home to live in 2 weeks time

[TREGTR]

Still under your ownership, or sold?

[dubchick95]

Aww why??

[MagicMikeZ32]

I'm pulling an engine out on Sunday.

Inb4vgoilchange

[Smity42]

I'm pulling an engine out on Sunday.

Do you need to check the oil level?

[boiracer]

Whores.

Warm day.

[dubchick95]

I'm in air con

[Ants]

My gtr will be going to a new home to live in 2 weeks time

dod you sell it or are you moving house

[Ants]

I'm in air con

me too