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Honduh to run in limp-home mode again and see if they can get lapped more times than at Melbourne? It's good to set a realistic target you can improve on from the last race. And that would be alot better than the much more likely Double-DNF in Malaysia's heat.

hehe - Renault are getting sick of Red Bull's shit:

http://www.grandprix247.com/2015/03/24/renault-its-hard-to-have-a-partner-red-bull-who-lies/

http://en.espnf1.com/redbull/motorsport/story/195405.html

Word is Red Bull pushed Renault into changes ahead of their development schedule for Melbourne. So it's pretty poor form Christian Horner saying, “I have no idea how they [Renault] have managed to f*ck it up so badly”!!!

Renault on the other hand says, "Our figures have shown that the lap time deficit between Red Bull and Mercedes in Melbourne was equally split between driveability issues, engine performance and chassis performance."

I just loved the sauber blowing off the red bull in melbourne. Shame it was riciardo at the wheel but it was great none the less.

I wonder if vettel will go to the merc de brief lol, nico is dumb for inviting him in. My 2c

Im glad renault have said they will stay in f1

I wonder if vettel will go to the merc de brief lol, nico is dumb for inviting him in. My 2c

you do realise Nico and Seb are just joking around... They're both German and probably get along alright. It would be pretty dumb to think Merc might give away any trade secrets to Seb and his notepad lol

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you do realise Nico and Seb are just joking around... They're both German and probably get along alright. It would be pretty dumb to think Merc might give away any trade secrets to Seb and his notepad lol

Yeah obviously, i still think its dumb and in one way or another could lead to it backfiring on nico more than the team. Nico needs to shutup and learn how to win more than a couple of races and concerntrate on winning the wdc.. Its also quite possible they dont get along alright who knows..

I think all the f1 guys are alright even maldonado lol, i dont read into what the media tries to drum up too much

Nico having a laugh with a fellow countryman is not going to hurt his place in the team. He knows from Mercedes favouring Hamilton in each of the on-track incidents and the team orders incident last season that he's No2, even IF earning basically half what his teammate gets wasn't already enough of a clue...

hehe - Renault are getting sick of Red Bull's shit:

http://www.grandprix247.com/2015/03/24/renault-its-hard-to-have-a-partner-red-bull-who-lies/

http://en.espnf1.com/redbull/motorsport/story/195405.html

Word is Red Bull pushed Renault into changes ahead of their development schedule for Melbourne. So it's pretty poor form Christian Horner saying, “I have no idea how they [Renault] have managed to f*ck it up so badly”!!!

Renault on the other hand says, "Our figures have shown that the lap time deficit between Red Bull and Mercedes in Melbourne was equally split between driveability issues, engine performance and chassis performance."

Those articles read like the FIFA clearing themselves of corruption. Maybe the chassis is an issue but is anyone in the paddock suggesting the Renno is on par or close to par with the Merc engine?

I don't know how you get that from those articles!

He admits that Renault is struggling at the start of 2015...

But he said it is wrong of Newey to say the only problem with his 2015 package is the ‘power unit’ supplied by Renault.

“In addition to our problems,” Abiteboul told France’s Auto Hebdo magazine, “Red Bull has some chassis problems that do not help the situation.

...our issues, both within the power unit and the chassis. Our figures have shown that the lap time deficit between Red Bull and Mercedes in Melbourne was equally split between driveability issues, engine performance and chassis performance. It's therefore the overall package that needs some help and we have been working with the team to move forward.

"We've been particularly aggressive in development and we should see the results a lot more clearly in Malaysia, particularly since we have had the opportunity to refine the PU...

Renault are clearly not suggesting their power unit is on-par with Mercedes. They're simply saying the RBR chassis isn't either.

I would expect self interest from both parties to lay off blame and that is exactly what we are seeing. I was reading between the lines rather than just reading the words as written.

Renault have no ability to say their engine isn't down on power because everyone knows it is a significant issue. So they are rightfully or wrongly trying to shift some of the shit somewhere else.

Statements like "our figures" smacks exactly of what I was referring to. They aren't going to release their figures due to a range of factors (and neither are RBR). If the engine is down 80-100hp that makes chassis development/aero a nightmare.....sorta like Newey is saying.

We will see what happens in Malaysia and hopefully the gap closes so we get some more racing for P3-P8.

ps. they are good articles to read because sport is so sanitised that at least we are seeing some push and pull

Statements like "our figures" smacks exactly of what I was referring to...

"Our figures have shown that the lap time deficit between Red Bull and Mercedes in Melbourne was equally split between driveability issues, engine performance and chassis performance" makes you think they are trying to clear themselves and suggest their engine is on par or close Mercedes?

That's some massive reading between the lines mate

Yeah, I saw it it. Thought it was OK. What are you going to say in 3 words? It is filthy hot and humid there.

Today for instance: 09:00-12:00 32deg 75%humidity feels like 45deg!!! http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=f1;sess=

From memory, Grosjean's 3 words were "Rain at four pm"...

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"Our figures have shown that the lap time deficit between Red Bull and Mercedes in Melbourne was equally split between driveability issues, engine performance and chassis performance" makes you think they are trying to clear themselves and suggest their engine is on par or close Mercedes?

That's some massive reading between the lines mate

I love when you get belligerent.

"Our figures" probably means without reference to RBR's compromises to accommodate an engine down on power. Reading between the lines something most of us do including you...when it suits you.

and I like it when the actual line you referred to says engine and driveability are 2 of the 3 factors affecting the performance, but you read between the lines that the engine is on par or close to par with the Merc engine... and go on the blame the engine for the chassis problems as well! lol

you think RBR developed their car over the winter with massive compromises on the presumption that the Renault would still be down on power??? So they were hoping at best to be a mid field runner? If Renault turned out to be the best engine this year, they'd have made all these chassis/aero compromises for nothing and would be holding the car back. Best case scenario would be they got the slow engine they developed the car for and might have been able to just beat that Sauber? i don't think that's how F1 teams that want to be up the pointy end develop their chassis and aero. They'd build the best thing they could and hope they get the engine they need to make it competitive. Anything else is aiming for mediocrity.

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