Are rwkW the latest rice?

[Fitzpatrick Speed Works]

Merli if you read all of my explaination instead of using a few lines to try and make me look bad or wrong you would understand alot more where a person is coming from!!! I articulated exactly what i meant but if you chose to pick apart sections of my post you have choosen to miss the real point and know you have my apoligies!!!

A grain of salt mate, maybe my original comments where a little harsh (or inarticulate) but hey if you think that EVERYBODY"S opinions are fantastic, spot on first time, sound mechanical knowledge then hey good for you; cause i dont, and that was my point.

Oh and i never EXPLICITY meant anything, have a look at class rules in drag racing not just street meet rules.

ie if you run ss/gas for instance: do what you like to your car as long as it has opening doors, a small block and carbied they are the basic regs to be meet...

It is harder to cheat with that then racing 15 other guys in a similar make or model car as in rally with lancers and so forth but yes it can be done and yes people cheat but at the end of the day you still have to race the clock and if you run the car 50 times with the cheating mods you still only have a time that yiou are trying to beat!!!

My point was and always has been you are still racing the clock to better yourself!!!

[fatz]

then it is still a race against the clock and human error judgement are still the main forces behind results!!

s13drifter that sounds alot like drag, circuit, rally (best cheater wins.... welcome to motorsport)

alot less skill in driving a street cat the drags than around a track me thinks

[GTRgeoff]

I'm putting a bit of effort into moving to the motorsport industry in the next couple of years (thanks Sydnekid) and the rule book is as much needed by the engineer as the engineering knowledge.

I will just about guarantee that as soon as someone finds an advantage over the others they will in this order:

1. be accused of cheating

2. be copied as soon as the detail is understood

3. find their innovation ruled in or out of the competition

just read the Godzilla history or any other race engineering book/magazine

Then of course there are the real cheats.........

[Fitzpatrick Speed Works]

I think yeah to dive a street car at the track is alot more skillfull than at the drags.... But as my first post says i just dont like that people downgrade the sport when all they have done is raced a stockish street car or never raced at all at a strip that is all i meant!!! Word to geoff your 1,2,3 guide has been seen and felt so many times!!!!

[GTRgeoff]

Parity is a curse Dan, but it stops motorsport from overdomination. Be interesting to see F1 get decent changes. First get rid of all driver aids and wings, so body downforce only.

Schuey will still kick butt tho.

[lwells]

I think yeah to dive a street car at the track is alot more skillfull than at the drags.... But as my first post says i just dont like that people downgrade the sport when all they have done is raced a stockish street car or never raced at all at a strip that is all i meant!!! Word to geoff your 1,2,3 guide has been seen and felt so many times!!!!

Yes, there may be skill in drags with heavily tuned drag machines, but what is the relevance of those cars to your average Skyline?

LW.

[Fitzpatrick Speed Works]

there is some relevance but point taken!!!

[rev210]

I think 'dyno rice' is when you have a guy talking about how his car is going to do this or that time at the drags, whilst waving a dyno sheet around as if it has determined it all by itself. These people are consistantly a pain always have been, it's not a new thing.

Other than that you can't say dyno's are a rice device because they really have a practical use.

[rev210]

oooops did I just dig up a grave?