Who can tune a HKS F-Con?

[adam 32]

and who said modified cars from japan arent good value?

cleaning my car today i found an HKS F-Con computer piggybacked to my main blitz ECU.

Does anyone know anyone in perth who can tune these?? and the apporximate cost for tuning?

im currently researching them on the net, lumpy was going to be my first option, but if anyone has any other suggestions it would be greatly appreciated!!

[GOT BOOST]

what a score :shake:

[R34]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but as HKS jealously guard their tuning software you'll have to take the car to Sydney for a tune........or Singapore.

That's unless someone has managed to get the software recently.

If Lumpy can't help try Lane at Race Torque in osborne park.

Cheers

Chris

[adam 32]

cheers chris

yeh i rang lumpy, he said no good - i almost cried haha!!

i guess i can try and sell it, i was so excited when i found it!! maybe ill still have to buy the goddam AFC or remap

[R34]

OK then talk to Lane before you rip it out

Cheers

[adam 32]

yeh ill give him a call tomorrow

its the PFC F-Con

but if its an F-Con something then still no good?? i might give the regular performance places a call and see if anyone can help me out.

thanks again!!

adam

[GOT BOOST]

maybe try Mick at Formaz they have had alot of jap spec cars on the dyno before its worth a try

[macka]

Ill tune it for you Adam NP

The tab is still running isnt it?

[hks-s14]

Dude, speak to Speedworks. Koyama from JUN comes down once a month I am told and I am pretty sure he can tune F-Con's...it may be really expensive though but give them a try.

[adam 32]

yeh i just went past speedworks on way home from uni, they said come back this arvo and someone will be able to help ya..

well as long as its cheaper than $500 (price of remap) then im happy!

[adam 32]

UPDATE

gary @ cypher said no good, best option is to pull it out and run an AFC alongside the blitz main ECU

lane @ race torque has never heard of it, and is overseas until 24th october so no good there either

[R34]

That's odd as Lane goes to singapore to tune HKS equiped cars for the distributor there.

[adam 32]

hmm that is strange then

maybe he didnt understnad what i meant....

[adam 32]

UPDATE

speedworks cannot tune it either. so i have come to the conlcusion that this thing is useless

now what should i do?

my current management is;

blitz rechipped ECU with HKS PFC F-Con piggy-backed

im thinking, remove the HKS thingo and run an SAFC with the rechipped ECU. but then people are telling me that AFCs are only a 'toy' and shouldnt be used

remap the remapped std ECU. people also say that this is not tuning in real-time and is therefore unreliable....

i cant afford a full replacement so options are

1)leave

2)afc and no hks piggy

3)no piggys or controllers, just remapped ECU

thoughts? suggestions?

[skyzerr33]

sell the hks to someone in NSW or VIC then get a safc to go with the blitz one u have. u might even make a profit off the hks? or contact Nengun and see if he can get a buyer for the HKS and do a swap for a SAFC.

[GOT BOOST]

why not just full local computer like Haltech,Wolf 3D or Microtech?

thats gonna be my plan. with the cost of all these import gizmos

and do away with air flow meter and all the other extras

[adam 32]

cos im an 18y.o uni student

ie i have no money

[Gradenko]

adam 32, you've already peiced together the story with these things, but I thought I'd add my experiences anyway.

At one point, I was looking at buying a used PFC-Fcon (+ GCC) from the eastern states for about $200. Heres what I know:

- pfc-fcon is a essentially rom based fuel only computer that talks directly to injectors via harness. Not programmable and no timing changes.

-The rom comes programmed from factory for basic mods and replacement roms are only available through hks.

- HKS claim extra tunability via an add on device, the GCC. It makes modifications to the air flow meter signal, so really nothing special, basically an overpriced 1st gen s-afc (can be used with or without the pfc-fcon).

If you can find a GCC somwhere in your car (small black box with 5 dials), then you're laughing. Take it down to your fav tuner and let them tune it like a s-afc. Otherwise, leave it in until you figure out what to do long term. I'd be thinking remap or basic e-manage package (until you can afford the harnesses you want).

[adam 32]

can i send away to HKS and ask for a new ROM?

like tell them the specs of my car and theyll give me the stage x ROM??

[Gradenko]

Most probably, yes. But I wouldn't expect it to be cheap (standard hks rip off prices) and it still won't change timing.

Oh yeah, if its connected to the car right now, I'd be careful about removing it. The Biltz ecu may have been tuned in unison with the pfc, so pulling it out could change the fueling maps. Maybe a check by a tuning shop before and after its removed to make sure it doesn't run too lean.