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Hey All,

So my car has now snapped a 3rd anti roll bar link bracket, this time I didn't do it my mate did when he spun my car off the track.

Background:

Front ARB is a 24mm solid adjustable Whiteline product, currently set to 3/4 (stiffness) using new links..

ARB & links are fine, however it's the bracket that keeps on sheering off.

So what are the alternatives for R33s? I know S13/14/15 can be bolted directly to the control arm like what is provided by Whiteline (which removes the need to use the weak mounting point).

However look at the R33, there's no real way of accomplishing the same thing.

(reference sau.com.au)

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I did do some searching on the net, however there weren't any real solutions to this issue I have.. probably the only option I have is going back OEM ARB and just get slightly stiffer front springs to achieve what I need.

le sigh :(

You're snapping the pressed steel bent up thingo stamped with an R in the photo, yeah?

If so, then your solution, in the absence of any better option, is to box up that bracket with some extra steel.

yep, and it only happens when there are heaps rapid oscillations such as running off the track lol.

I was hoping an off the shelf solution, similar to what I posted about how s chassis cars go about it.

I'd be surprised as i wiuldn't think it that common an issue. When i fitted my whiteline arb tho i had to flip the link over to get it to align with the mount & bar holes. To ask yhe obvious, you have done the same, and haven't really preloaded the link/bracket trying to get them aligned?

Factory brackets in some cases can tear out with upgraded bars. I know that the early Whiteline rear ARB's for EK civics were tearing the mounts out of the rear X-member. They had to develop a heavy X-member brace to address the problem. I heard of similar problems with Foresters when people started upgrading rear ARB's. These are only 2 examples of cars I've owned and looked at upgrading - could be a lot more out there that suffer the same fate.

Have you talked to Whiteline about this. They actually do take some accountability for this kind of thing.

not yet, but I should!

However I just installed 10kg front springs now which would reduce the likelihood of the ARB bracket snapping as the oscillations would be reduced from the stiffer spring rates.

  • 2 weeks later...

Why don't you first stress releive the bracket by heating it to around 400c, then when you fit the bracket back on, put the bracket between two washers on either side before you bolt it back on. It should hopefully allow that tiny bit more flex, so it doesn't snap.

Just made that up on the spot based on the problem, but it should help your issue.

I just put another set of OEM ones in.. however the car now has 10kg front springs, so hopefully the violent oscillations will decrease with the heavier spring rates and new shocks.

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