ArcticSIlver Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Was at the track a couple days ago when my motor made horrible noises at rev limiter. Pulled the motor out and took the head off to inspect. One exhaust valve broke entirely and bent all the rest in the same cylinder (#1) for obvious reasons. I am very unsure what happened, I suspect valve float? Rev limiter is set to 7800. 10 events on a fresh rebuild, standard engine besides arp head studs, arp rod bolts, ACL race bearings, and cometic head gasket. It was running fantastic and rock solid all year. The valve spring, keeper, and retainer were all in perfect shape. I find it curious though that the valve stem was not bent, almost like it did not contact the piston at the time of breaking. Timing was dead on, and car was dyno tuned by a very good tuner at 412hp. Any ideas? would like to prevent this on the new motor. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/472359-rb25-neo-piston-eats-valve-carnage/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticSIlver Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 Really no one has a clue? This is keeping me up at night. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/472359-rb25-neo-piston-eats-valve-carnage/#findComment-7854613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Peterson Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 What ECU is it running? Just out of curiosity. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/472359-rb25-neo-piston-eats-valve-carnage/#findComment-7854627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticSIlver Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 Link g4+, I really need to get to the bottom of this cause, it's driving me nuts. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/472359-rb25-neo-piston-eats-valve-carnage/#findComment-7854830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Peterson Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Are you planning to run aftermarket springs and retainers on the new motor? Looks like a pretty clean breakage... Had the motor been pulled down previously? Any idea if it had a hard life before you had it? Otherwise I got no idea Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/472359-rb25-neo-piston-eats-valve-carnage/#findComment-7854835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobz Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 How much boost and how hard was the limiter being hit? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/472359-rb25-neo-piston-eats-valve-carnage/#findComment-7854843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticSIlver Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 Ill run aftermarket valve springs if I need to, I was just planning to slap all my goodies on the new motor and get a tune and drive it. It had only 10 events on a legit rebuilt. Maybe 500 miles on it. It was on 17psi boost and at the moment I had been on limiter for 3 seconds maybe? However this is a drift car and I have been giving it bloody hell ever since it's been running and tuned. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/472359-rb25-neo-piston-eats-valve-carnage/#findComment-7854862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticSIlver Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 No ideas? Haven't herd much of rbs and valve problems? Is this a freak accident no one cares to speak on? Still keeping me up at night.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/472359-rb25-neo-piston-eats-valve-carnage/#findComment-7855438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobz Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 It would be hard to pin point exactly what went wrong. Being an exhaust valve it has somehow stayed open when it should have been retreating back to its seat. Possibly bouncing badly off the cam when on the limiter with the engine abruptly cutting power whilst manifold back pressure is slowing down the valve closing. A heavier valve spring would help ensure the valve will travel back to the valve seat when it should. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/472359-rb25-neo-piston-eats-valve-carnage/#findComment-7855444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticSIlver Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 Does anybody know the specs on neo valve springs? I can't find them anywhere. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/472359-rb25-neo-piston-eats-valve-carnage/#findComment-7855480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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