Stagea Suspension

[Tangles]

edited - see new thread titled Whiteline Swaybars

Edited March 29, 2006 by Tangles

[Terminal]

Next week i'm getting GTR camber arms fitted to fix my rear camber. meaning i can have a low car and not have any camber. will show before and after results for interested parties

[CruiseLiner]

Next week i'm getting GTR camber arms fitted to fix my rear camber. meaning i can have a low car and not have any camber. will show before and after results for interested parties

hey mate is that the main top arms that have a big O shape for the shock to go through? cause they dont fit as the shock hits em, as i tried putting the ones from a gtr rear cradle, so i used the stock stagea ones again which are just a str8 piece with a few curves on it.

[Terminal]

They don't have an O-shape, they're curved however to go around the shock.

The rear of the stagea is setup the same as an R33 GTR correct? well i saw them installed on an R33 GTR so i guessed they'd work.

anywho, my mech will be fitting them, if there was going to be a problem he wouldn't be suggesting them to me (he's been under my car enough times to know the setup, he put my coilovers and whiteline bars in)

[CruiseLiner]

heres a pic of a 32 gtr one, not sure what the 33's r like, but i know for sure the width of the cradle compared to the gtr and the length of axles r different to gtr's, and shocks r on a different angle all together. that arm looks exactly the same as the stock stagea ones anyway so should be fine, unless they are made with the same bends to clear the shock as a gtr and then it wont fit. only one way to find out

sorry the pic is soo big..

[Sydneykid]

They don't have an O-shape, they're curved however to go around the shock.

The rear of the stagea is setup the same as an R33 GTR correct? well i saw them installed on an R33 GTR so i guessed they'd work.

anywho, my mech will be fitting them, if there was going to be a problem he wouldn't be suggesting them to me (he's been under my car enough times to know the setup, he put my coilovers and whiteline bars in)

Are you really going to run spherical bearings on the rear of a Stagea?

Ask you mechanic about NVH? Sphericals are damn noisy, particularly with a big rear sound box of a waggon.

Ask you mechanic about subframe cracking? Spericals have no give, hit a bump and it is 100% transmitted to the subframe.

Ask your mechanic about wear? Spherical bearings NEED maintenance, they get dirt, grit, sand and mud in them and they wear out FAST. They have to be cleaned regularly, then greased.

Ask your mechanic about replacement sphericals? When they wear out (which won't be long) they will need replacing, make sure you don't have to buy complete arms. Many suppliers use unique spherical which you can not buy as spare parts.

There is a thread in the supension section if you want more details.

cheers

[Terminal]

Sorry, these aren't the ones i'm using, they were just an example.

he told me he's using good quality ones, not crappy ones that clunk etc. i can get the exact details off him, but i'm not a suspension mechanic so i won't pretend to know much about what he's doing. he just said it will fix the camber and make it very highly adjustable in the rear end for future reference (in case i make the worlds first drift stagea or something)

[AlexCim]

Well, youve rooted yourself much harder than that.

The Stagea is R33 GTST/200sx rear. Its R33 GTR front, from what i remember written on my bilstein shocks when i put them in.

[Terminal]

As i said, not suspension mechanic.

he's going to sort it out, he knows what he's doing. he's been under my car a fair few times

[Tangles]

As i said, not suspension mechanic.

he's going to sort it out, he knows what he's doing. he's been under my car a fair few times

LOL, I hear ya! Best of luck with it mate, seeing youve had the 'trouble' for a fair while, I hope you can have it all sorted and ironed out. She'll be right.......

Doing my stuff this Monday at home with a fella (for a small fee), hopefully just by adding the Bilstein shocks at standard height (maybe just one groove down at front) with stnd springs, wont have a camber issue, or tyre wear etc.

Cant wait to test it all out afterwards!!!! Had my power button on today, and with 160awkw she really cranks in the lower gears, so with the suspn & wheels/tyres freshly sorted me thinks a good Hills run is in order.

[CruiseLiner]

hey sydneykid, just a couple of questions, now that im actually able to drive my car for the first time with the new suspension, its really really stiff, and ive got both front and rear on the highest circlip possible, which is 350mm front, 360mm rear. how tight does the main top nut on the shocks have to be? ive got like 40mm of threads hanging out the top of the nut. can u adjust the stiffness at all?

it handles awesome and sooo responsive when steering around bends, just i cant rev it past 4k so i cant give it heaps just yet.

[Tangles]

the new suspension, its really really stiff - it handles awesome and sooo responsive when steering around bends

Yeah, I find my shocks (stnd springs) are stiff when driving at 60kmph (potholes, bumps etc), but at 80 it is very nice, and at 100 it is schweet-as! Overall a top suspn package, and totally worth the $$$$

[Terminal]

Well turns out while i was getting my camber and other thing sorted my worst fears were realised. all of my wheel bearings are shagged and also my CV boots have gone. my steering rack is moving in the joint and my lower ball joints on both sides of the front end are moving around. looks like suspension overhaul time for me. i have done 160,000km on the car, and not much of that was easy city driving, so i guess i should have expected it.

[AlexCim]

My rear wheel bearings are screwed too

Let me know what you do. Our wheel bearings are the same as R33/R34's so FAST tells me.

Let me know what they cost you, i need a set too (mine crack almost every low speed corner)

[DRIFTER]

anyone have any tips for setting the rear up for towing a car trailer, mine sags heaps in the back.

[AlexCim]

Put the height in the rear up maybe 2cm, put on less camber (static camber will increase when the car is pulled lower) and maybe some stiffer spring rates and swaybars.

[darrinspencer]

What spring rates suit Stagea's for daily driven, handling, comfort, towing

Front 4kg?

Rear 4kg?

Sydneykid

What are the spring rates in your kits?

[oxford1327]

hiya all i was jus wondering without looking through the whole thread page by page, are series 1+2 the same for sway bars? as i have the shock side of things sorted (adjustable koni) but feels a bit boatish in heavy cornering! also are the camber arms the same? as i would like to get some adjustable ones for the rear at some stage.

[Terminal]

I'm getting adjustable camber arms fitted next week, i can let you know which ones i get fitted and how they go. mech said he's got it sorted but i haven't asked specifics yet

[Sydneykid]

hiya all i was jus wondering without looking through the whole thread page by page, are series 1+2 the same for sway bars? as i have the shock side of things sorted (adjustable koni) but feels a bit boatish in heavy cornering! also are the camber arms the same? as i would like to get some adjustable ones for the rear at some stage.

Stabilisr bars are the same on S and S2.

They are $219 each for adjustable on the Group Buy and $194 each for fixed rate bars.

Stabiliser bars are the best bang for buch handling upgrade you can make.

cheers