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zer0for0je

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Hullo,

I've been practising the breaking drift a bit and it seems im on the threshold of the car going sideways, but by the time i feel it ready to come out im going way too slow so i just bail... now currently my susp setup is horse shit, really soft stockers, now the thing that i wanna know is, wouldnt soft susp be good for shifting the weight, because it moves so feely or is stiff susp better because you can only shift it to a certain point untill it slides out, giving the car a much lower slide / traction break threshold ?

Thanks!!

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soft suspension would help to transfer wait forward, however it comes back to the whole pendulume effect. when stomping brakes at high speed with soft suspension, the car will nose in, the back lifting and wait will tranfer forwards. also to with hard susspension weight will tranfer, it may not look like weight is transfering as much but thats because body roll in soft suspension is missleading in appearance. in hard suspension the weight transfers quickly and isnt dampended like it is with soft suspension. when braking with hard suspension its more quick an accurate transfer. sorry blaaahhh on for ages

Craved Grand Master

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Thats it, if you can't afford new stiff suspension, maybe use adjustable swaybars to stiffen the rear suspension right up and so that less weight shift it taken up by the rear suspension, thus forcing the rear to slip not grip!

Duncan Grand Master

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LOL - my mate shamed a few people by out drifting them in a stock e30 325e - with 64rwkw ... so you can make it happen without spending on mods if you know how!

muahahah 64rwkw thats money well spent :P the $200 datto had 49rwkw....those extra 15 cost a fiar bit

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hehe, thanks for the response!

i glady appreciate it... i reacon it would be wise for me to learn with shit suspension so when i do get decent springs or coilovers i can relly apreaciate them and use them to thier limit.. thankyou!!!

Laurence Mentor

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Hmmmm... learning to cut with a blunt knife...

I really don't know if it is good. Learning without a lot of power I agree with (stops you from being a straight line hero) but good suspension means you are learning to drive, not to compensate for the car being ghey.

Laurence Mentor

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good point... but wouldnt learning the limits of a poor setup help you take advantage of a good setup..  and exploit it for maximum drifts?

Well the best drifter I know learned in S13 with craptacular suspension and horrid wheel alignment (mostly due to hit gutters). So he seems to think you can do it with stuffed stock suspension.

I have only ever slid around a S14 with stock but fairly new suspension which I found very roly poly but very easy to slide. The drivers I have seen with crappy suspension that were drifting pretty badly instantly were better with new suspension and are now extremely good.

So yeah maybe bad suspension is a good training tool. Hmmm, hard to know.

Laurence Mentor

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Yep... compared to Japan (almost) everyone is very slow so they can't use the momentum to come into the corner properly. Speaking to the Japanese driver's they said they only used the handbrake to hold the car out sideways after it is already there

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silver e30 at wakefield

yea i remeber that guy

quite dangerouse on the race track

ran me of the road

someone should tell him when overtaking on the race track in a straight line to only cut infront after he actually passes you as opposed to cutting in front and running you into the dirt.

im glad i was in a mates 808 ... maybe should have let him run into me

nice bloke besides that

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hmm i'll let him know fatz... he gets a bit of tunnel vision in a race car!

Sorry mate!

funny thing is that car is sooooo slow in a straight line, cant believe he overtook you LOL

meh everyone knows pete's a pu55y on a race track, no wonder he got past :P

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