Question about Nissan and the naming of their Cars

[funkymonkey]

GTR - Grand Touring Racecar? or something like that... i'm not sure...

basically you have

GTS - N/A 2.0L (R32) or 2.5L (R33)

GTSt - Single Turbo

GTS4 - 4WD N/A or Turbo

GTR - Race homologation model... basically made so that the car is allowed to race in production car races like the JGTC.

Then there's the GTE, GTX, GT-t and other specs depending on what model you look at...

and there's also sub-specifications like "Type M","Type S", "Type J" and "V-Spec", "V Selection" etc etc.

Confused?

[funkymonkey]

but to answer your question, no the R in GTR dosen't mean it has an RB in it...

the First generation Skyline GTR in 1964, had a 2.0L DOHC 4 cylinder engine.

PGC10/KPGC10 - 1st generation GTR (1964)

KPGC110 - 2nd generation GTR (1972)

BNR32 - 3rd generation GTR (05/1989)

BCNR33 - 4th generation GTR (10/1993)

BNR34 - 5th generation GTR (1998?)

There probably will be another GTR later down the track... but as you can see how there was a hop from the KPGC110 to the BNR32, there will be a hop from the BNR34 to whatever it is, as rezz said when the technology changes.

[Rezz]

the First generation Skyline GTR in 1964, had a 2.0L DOHC 4 cylinder engine...

Aaah you're talking about the PGC-10 GT-R aren't you? If you are, it was released in 1969 (not '64) and it had an S20 DOHC inline-6 (not 4 cyl.)

[Guilty]

ohhz ok coooool.......

does anyone have the chassis model no. for the 350z?

[Rezz]

ohhz ok coooool.......

does anyone have the chassis model no. for the 350z?

UA-Z33

[funkymonkey]

thanks rezz... oops sorry about the confusion... the engine was called a DOHC4, it was a 6 cylinder... the engine was developed in 1964, for the Prince R380 race car, and in 1967-68 it was loaded into the GT-B Skyline. Then raced in 1969 as the first GTR.

I could have my dates slightly wrong tho...

[ylwgtr2]

thanks rezz... oops sorry about the confusion... the engine was called a DOHC4, it was a 6 cylinder... the engine was developed in 1964, for the Prince R380 race car, and in 1967-68 it was loaded into the GT-B Skyline. Then raced in 1969 as the first GTR.

I could have my dates slightly wrong tho...

yep....seems to be a trend

but to answer your question, no the R in GTR dosen't mean it has an RB in it...

the First generation Skyline GTR in 1964, had a 2.0L DOHC 4 cylinder engine.

PGC10/KPGC10 - 1st generation GTR (1964)

KPGC110 - 2nd generation GTR (1972)

BNR32 - 3rd generation GTR (05/1989)

BCNR33 - 4th generation GTR (10/1993)  

BNR34 - 5th generation GTR (1998?)

There probably will be another GTR later down the track... but as you can see how there was a hop from the KPGC110 to the BNR32, there will be a hop from the BNR34 to whatever it is, as rezz said when the technology changes.

[funkymonkey]

so i did get em wrong?

[paulr33]

whats the type-j got shan?

[TEAMSHADOW]

wohoho!!!! very very educational:D ya learn summin new everyday;)

[funkymonkey]

Type J is a specification for the N/A series, its like the class below the Type S.

There's also a Type X which is for 4 doors.

[KILL HSV]

if i'm not mistaken the r30 skyline came with an fj20, then the r31 got an rb, also what did the model before the r30 look like?

[j_insoll]

GTR - Grand Touring Racecar? or something like that... i'm not sure...

basically you have

GTS - N/A 2.0L (R32) or 2.5L (R33)

GTSt - Single Turbo

GTS4 - 4WD N/A or Turbo

GTR - Race homologation model... basically made so that the car is allowed to race in production car races like the JGTC.

GTR actually stands for - Gran Turismo Racing

GTS stand for - Gran Turismo Sports

GTS-t stands for - Gran Turismo Sports turbo

Very interesting discussion keep it up.

Oh and the J's (Jacks) silvias are pretty rare over here as people who wanted a non turbo silvia always got Q's (queens) as the J's was the economy model and Q's was the optioned model.

[KILL HSV]

i'm pretty sure turismo is like the german word for touring, so either is good

[funkymonkey]

The origins of the words Gran Turismo takes us back into the 17th and 18th century where European aristocrats traveled long distances across the continent in horse-drawn carriages. Today, the words Gran Turismo define a car designed and suited for long distance travel.

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Also have you guys noticed recently as the drift crazy has hit town that J's silvia headlights, the poverty non projector style ones with the 2 square lights, are all the rage?

[stevesskylinenz]

I think you will find that the car designation and motor designation are all coincidental. As I remember the R30 Skyline had an 'L' series engine, and the R31 had an 'RB' series engine or a 'CA20' engine when badged as a Pintara. The letters in front of the car designation are usually a quick guide to show what vehicle it is, as an example only: KMCR31. R31=chassis desination. 'K' might mean 4 door. 'M' might mean sedan as opposed to 4dr pillarless hardtop. 'C' might mean RB30 engine.

This is the way Nissan did it in the 70' and 80's so I assume they still do it now.

[Rezz]

I think you will find that the car designation and motor designation are all coincidental. As I remember the R30 Skyline had an 'L' series engine, and the R31 had an 'RB' series engine or a 'CA20' engine when badged as a Pintara. The letters in front of the car designation are usually a quick guide to show what vehicle it is, as an example only: KMCR31. R31=chassis desination. 'K' might mean 4 door. 'M' might mean sedan as opposed to 4dr pillarless hardtop. 'C' might mean RB30 engine.

This is the way Nissan did it in the 70' and 80's so I assume they still do it now.

You haven't read the thread have you?

[dojobi]

Just like the S15 - I've seen on Nissan Japan and Carview's websites, it's got the type as GF-S15. Both S13 and S14 appear as E-S13 & E-S14 on Carview's website.  

http://history.nissan.co.jp/SILVIA/S15/020...SPEC/index.html

http://www.carview.co.jp/vip/specification...SILVIA/1999.asp

The following is the meaning behind the name to some of nissan's cars - for those who is interested. You'll need babelfish for translation if u cant read japanese like me.  

http://www.nissan.co.jp/MUSEUM/CARNAME/index.html

The E and GF before a model indicates 1st and 2nd series afaik. Toyota use this too. I've been looking at Chasers, and they are E-JZX100 if they're a series 1, or a GF-JZX100 if they're a series 2.

I'm sure it stands for something as both Nissan and Toyota use it. Maybe some of the Japanese residents can help out here?

EDIT: Btw, it would be interesting to see if the S14A had a GF in front of its model code. If it did, then that would seem to validate my theory.

[funkymonkey]

the E in the front of a car, like my E-HCR and the E-ECR33 designate that it was built using the renewed emssions standards. usually people don't say E-ECR33 because all R33's were built with the new emissions standards, wheras with some R32's they weren't and some were. No one really cares about the E in front to be honest, or maybe they just don't know what it is lol.

in toyotas I believe a 4AGE engine is before the emissions, and a 4AGEU was after the emission laws or something. I'm not too sure on my toyotas.

[homer2288]

The E and GF before a model indicates 1st and 2nd series afaik. Toyota use this too. I've been looking at Chasers, and they are E-JZX100 if they're a series 1, or a GF-JZX100 if they're a series 2.

I'm sure it stands for something as both Nissan and Toyota use it. Maybe some of the Japanese residents can help out here?

EDIT: Btw, it would be interesting to see if the S14A had a GF in front of its model code. If it did, then that would seem to validate my theory.

Perhaps the car manufacturers should explain these mystery alphabets..it could be some sort car manufacturer's code...or maybe just a random alphabet they thought up.