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Silly thread this one, and the dozens like it from yesteryear.

My only experience in a R33 gtst is with 10psi boost and an exhaust you can run easy 13.8's on factory sized rubber, without touching the ecu. I had about 100kgs of work gear in the boot too.

I don't see many similar modded WRX's of the 1999 vintage doing that, in fact I've never seen one do it. This includes the STi version of that era. I am talking a real drag strip not some magazine test with a g-tech. Doesn't mean to say it hasn't been done I just haven't seen one myself.

Having said that... many owners of skylines and WRX's alike suffer from an inabillity to drive them well, making the argument a kind of which cars are more likely driven by people who can't really race discussion.

In this case I'd say a dead heat.

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Dave

I know of many stockish rexes runing better than 13.8

My best mates evo 4 wrx(MY00) - with turbo back exhaust and stand boost ran a 13.4 at kwinana.

Dan

Silly thread this one, and the dozens like it from yesteryear.

My only experience in a R33 gtst is with 10psi boost and an exhaust you can run easy 13.8's on factory sized rubber, without touching the ecu. I had about 100kgs of work gear in the boot too.

I don't see many similar modded WRX's of the 1999 vintage doing that, in fact I've never seen one do it. This includes the STi version of that era. I am talking a real drag strip not some magazine test with a g-tech. Doesn't mean to say it hasn't been done I just haven't seen one myself.

Having said that... many owners of skylines and WRX's alike suffer from an inabillity to drive them well, making the argument a kind of which cars are more likely driven by people who can't really race discussion.

In this case I'd say a dead heat.

I have heard similar Dan just never seen it myself. I believe you of course.

I think talk is cheap about this kind of thing, for the people concerned they should take it to the race track and find out.

Easy isn't it. :cheers:

Now I wonder which one is faster in reverse?

GTST, the only classic model rexes that were 1300 kg were the wagons, 99-00 sedans were 1270, 97-98 were closer to 1230.

My 2000 model ran 13.7 stock, so they are pretty capable. But yeah, some people don't know how to drive too.

And to all you guys, 13 pound is stock boost in a rex. They are a lower compression motor and can handle more boost, but at the cost of more lag.

my experience,

My car 97 gts25t HAD approx 200rwkw wif Fmic/pod/exhaust t3/t4 turbo ecu 1bar boost (not holding boost drops to 12psi approaching red)

mates car 98 wrx vf22/28 i think 1bar boost (holding well no drop in boost all the way to redline, exhaust/pod ecu BUT no FMIC BUT has water spray).

ANYWAYZ.

both off the lights a right turn into a mainroad waiting for each other then flooring it in Second, both having one passenger, head to head up to END of THIRD for me which is 150km/h and still HEAD TO HEAD then we called it quits....

BUT iF off the spot i think i would lose due to traction problem and him having 4wd.

i personally think WRX a quicker..

(THEY CERTAINLY FEEL ALOT QUICKER ALOT MORE G-FORCE!~, BUT when you line them up very close)

Both are pretty even cars, it depends on mods.

WRX has the AWD advantage, so theoretically should win stock, BUT, few

WRX owners are willing to all out launch, given the sound reputation of WRX gearboxes :bs!:

As performance is similar, it probably comes down to looks. In my opinion, u can't beat the Skyline tail lights. Alternatively, get a GTR ;)

a r33 gts-t is cheaper then a 99 wrx and goes faster and looks better... end of story.

are you serious? its cheaper cos its older. i would have to agree with slow13dude in that the STOCK wrx looks better than the STOCK gts-t. performance wise, i would say wrx would be quicker.

Thizzle: how about you drive around and look for, lets say a Rigoli wrx, and see how well your 'hks' goes!

wrx may get the 1st to 2nd gear ...then see yah rexxy .. ive been in that situation where i was the passenger of the wrx against my cousins r33 ...then vice versa ..

race 1

note: 1997 wrx 555 with mods were cat back exhaust, 17inch gold rims

note: r33 1993 only mods hks filter, still running standard boost and stock wheels

winner: r33 by 3rd gear all the way .. but wrx won 1st to 2nd gear thanks to the 4wd system ...as the r33 struggled to get traction.

race 2 (same cars but with further mods)

555 wrx with: 15psi boost, uni filter.

r33 with: full turbo back 3inch exhaust, 19inch wheels, 10 psi boost.

winner: r33 blitz the rexy on 1st gear (thanks to the 19inch wheels for traction)

bear in mind that both drivers are experienced street racers,... and later that week my cousins r33 raced against an 2001 STi with full exhaust and filter only ..and the winner is r33!!

as long as the r33 has its traction .... kapow! bye bye rexy .. this race was done at the brisbane hwy from gold coast to yatala.... queenslander's yah know what im talkin about!!

Street racing is dangerous.. but its so much fun.  Dont get caught or your gonna pay REAL hard by those little blue and red boys and gals.

tell me about it.. so muchhhhh fun and provides you with an adrenalin rush (better than sex, ..ahahha j/k) but can end up in some serious fatal accident nor heavy fines with your car being impounded.

its nice to do once in a while ...specially in qld hwy's ..but on sydney roads .. forget it! those coppers are everywhere ...unseen and forseen ..

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