Endless brake pads...

[Pva_Glue]

Where can I get these in perth? some where?

or

What are they made out of? are they in blue in colour?

cheers

Joe

[400HP]

theres two types that are common in Australia. Theres the NA series and the CC series.

NA are asbestos based (not sure.. check)... and I think the CC series are carbon metalic or something.

You can see some info at www.belperformance.com.au or thr Centrax Auto website which I can't remember.

Depending on what you want them for as in street/track theres a huge difference in the grades.

[predator]

There is a set of them on mine and seem to do the job... they're aren't the blue type though.

Not cheap from what i've seen !

[Kichigai]

I believe the NA are for street and the CC are for street.

I have seen Endless brake pads at XSpeed.

[51jay]

I have got NA-R on the front, on the street they feel and stop pretty much like Bendix, on the track they keep on stopping you.

heat range 300 - 800. Blurb says they need heat in them for max performance but they work fine when stone cold

NA....non asbestos

CC....ceramic/carbon

ma....semi metallic

Na-R was the one reccomended to me for heavy street + some drag and circuit work, $482/pair front from GSA Wholesale Suspension in Bris. www.gsad.com.au

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Pva_glue,

Yeah Xspeed do sell them, but they recommended that I go for the "Project u" pads. The endless ones need to have alot of heat in them before they start to bite, and therefore aren't very good for regular street use.

Due to the high metal content they will squeal and are not good until heated. They will appear fine at low speed while cold, but trust me at 140km/hr on cold pads you had better have your brown jocks on.

See'ya:burnout:

[Pva_Glue]

well are they in blue colour at the back of brake?

only I am asking cuz I had this b4 when I changed to new pads... old pad were very good! shit loads of dust produced but it did the job!

I am after same one!

cheers

Joe

[GTS-t VSPEC]

The ones at Xspeed that I saw were blue, which type were you after?

Give them a call.

See'ya:burnout:

[Pva_Glue]

for NA skylines of course but I dont think they carry them

cheers

Joe

[GTS-t VSPEC]

They might not carry them, but they can order them in. Not many places would carry high performance pads for NA skylines.

See'ya:burnout:

[51jay]

The NA series is blue and the NA-R stopped me fine from 160kph on my first run at the strip at which time they would be cold

GTS-T V SPEC You speak from experience, so do I, how come our experience appears to be so different? I have Endless NA-R on front ,standard Bendix on back. They seem very soft in as much as they bite with very little pressure applied at low speed hot or cold and not much more comeing down from 160. generate a lot of light grey dust but are totally silent, I get the feeling they won't be long lasting though.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

When I used them I got the smell of burning metal, almost no stopping power until they had some heat in them. Don't know why the difference, maybe different heat ratings? Either way, if you like the Endless then stick with them, I am still looking for a pad which I'm happy with, I can live with squealing and brake dust, but I won't lots of stopping power.

See'ya:burnout:

[400HP]

NA-R's are 300-800. Depending on how your drive on the street I would say thats a TRACK ONLY pad for most of us.

I would say the optimal street pad temp would be either the NA-Y to NA-M. I am gonna get a set of CC-X from Japan. These arren't generally sold here but its a track/street pad thats goes from 100-600.

Do the Endless squeal?

[51jay]

I'm a pretty conservative driver on the street and no they do not squeal.......did you actually read my post??

[400HP]

Yes I did read your post. I know you speak from experience and I don't. I also understand when the Endless website says "NA-R FOR TRACK USE ONLY"

Fair enuf I'm sure they can be used for the road under light load and I'm sure your a conservative driver on the steer so the following point wouldn't affect you but the point I was making was in the circumstance the brakes are cold and you brake hard you may have a problem.

Franks on this forum used to have a WRX with NA-M's. I remmber a time this happened to him when he had to brake hard and you can probably guess what happened.

I'm not disputing what you say.... I'm saying that for regular everyday driving theres street pads .... and then theres high temp track pads.

[gtrken]

Originally posted by GTS-t VSPEC

When I used them I got the smell of burning metal, almost no stopping power until they had some heat in them. Don't know why the difference, maybe different heat ratings? Either way, if you like the Endless then stick with them, I am still looking for a pad which I'm happy with, I can live with squealing and brake dust, but I won't lots of stopping power.

See'ya:burnout:

Pagid Blues ( rs-4 or 12 ) I think. Work great cold, brilliant hot, don't squeal tho do create a lot of dust and are similar price to Endless ( bout $400 an end ).

Most top rally cars in W Aust use em and I ran them at targa. The discs gave out before the pads. Were all black and crumbly when I pulled em out on the 2nd day but still worked.

Don't get Pagid blacks unless you are REALLY serious and have comp rotors.

Ken

[no_gtr_yet]

Yep im with Ken RS4-2 im running these with std rotors they work really well in all conditions, dust minimal, they do squeel a bit though on light pedal applications.

speak to Barry Smith Motorsport in Sydney

www.bmsport.com.au

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they have to cut the rears to suit

price was about $800 for both ends including freight.

hope this helps

[fatz]

kentex metal

50 bux a set

as good as bendix ultimate

my question to you is r endless worth 8 times as much

unless your car is a full time track car

pete

[Ender]

I have tried numerous pads...pagids, endless, ebc, other crappy brands...

The pads I have ended up taking a bit of a liking to are Ferodo DS2000's they are about 100-600 degrees or so and are quite predictable and progressive...The DS3000's are also fantastic for very hard driving or track days...

Cheers,

Russ

[rb26dett]

if i remember correctly, endless have pads which work from 0-700 so if you go on the net n have a look around, you could probably get those.

great pads, but hell expensive for sumthing u grind up everyday.