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The XR6T does have a lot of tunning potential and with a few basic mods will go quick, but to copare to a GTR - PLEASE! At the end of a day its still a ford :P If i had the cash id go buy a 34GTR or a 33GTR for 40g's and spend 40g's on it and then do the same with an XR6T just to see what its like, would be cool to have to monster fast cars.........

Ill settle down now....

Yeah, when you start talking about "yeah, well if I had that budget and bought cheap car X and spend Y on it, I'd be heaps quicker" it just starts turning into a shitfight.

Light bolt-ons are one thing, but when you're talking about spending $40K on a modifying a car and comparing it to a stocker, then you should really get out more.

Each to their own.... you can't educate some people and the more you try the more indignant they become. Eg: I like BMW's but I appreciate the fact that the Skyline is a fantastic car and If I could have an M5 and a GTR then I would :P

Love the fact that thy can build a heavy 4dr turbo sedan to be a quicker circuit car then a 660hp 6.0L V12 that revs to 8,000rpm, weighs 1250kg and has an incredilby low centre of gravity thanks to composite construciton, has a 350km/h top speed with kick ass aero blah blah blah:)

What's the point of stirring them? It just generates bad blood (which sometimes ends up on the road), and it reinforces the stereotype that Skyline drivers are a bunch of immature shitheads.

I don't mind having a bit of a shit stir in a forum you're an active member of (either for fun, or to make some tunnel visioned people actually think about shit and point out how narrow minded they are) but if you're signing up somewhere just to be a troll, you're even worse than them.

Back to the cars.....if I needed a comfy sedan with a bit of poke, I'd either get an XR6T or an Audi RS6. Clearly they're not in the same price range, which means in all likelihood when I retire the coupe I'll be a Blue Oval man.

If I can afford to upgrade the coupe, of couse, I'll be going Euro. :D After riding in a mate's Lotus Elise, little else will seem like a sports car again.

After riding in a mate's Lotus Elise, little else will seem like a sports car again.

So you were impressed ? I drove one about 800kms on various roads and did about 25 laps around Winton in one. It was great fun, and you get plenty of ppl asking what is, ppl starign etc. But at the end of the day it stopped and turned well, bu t didnt go that hard in a straight line, and imagine my disapointment to find my GTST on semi slicks is 5 seconds a lap quicker around Winton:(

That said just cause the Skylien is quicker doesnt make it the better car, id love to own one as a weekend special:)

Thanks for proving once again that the world is full of idiots, good stuff, such a great thread (not directed at anyone in particular as they'd have a cry).

I know when I was driving my Falcons I just had this uncontrolable urge to race skylines and scream abuse at Holden drivers, just like now when I drive my Skyline as soon as I see a WRX I MUST race it :)

IMO unless you own and drive a car that does X time around track Y and can do 400m in Z seconds then STFU everything else is pointless speculation without hard figures. Why I don't get into such threads stupidity. Especially dumb comparisons like this.

On another note, fast cars are cool :) an 1800kg car that does 400m in 10 odd seconds is a pretty good effort especially for a mass production car. Likewise there are many impressive GT-Rs, GTS-Ts, GT-Ts etc.

Fan boys argueing with each other over the net is dumb.

imagine my disapointment to find my GTST on semi slicks is 5 seconds a lap quicker around Winton:(

What other mods have you got to your GTSt?

Stock for stock, the Elise is one of the quicker track cars out there. But I was thinking that if the Elise is that good, the coupe Exige would be even more fun. :) The Ariel Atom S2 may be coming out at the end of the year too, which is another option.

In the end, I just liked the way it felt. Just the way it handles and turns. I don't race, so if I'm doing track work I'm out there for my enjoyment at my pace. I'd much rather drive a nimble car that's a joy to drive than something that might be quicker, but I have to wrestle around the track.

And I really couldn't give a toss about outright straightline power. Sure, its frustrating getting stuck behind cars that monster you down the main straight but then hold you up everywhere else, but I found I can either back off and let them get ahead before running them down, or outbrake them somewhere and use the rest of the back section to pull enough of a gap so they can't pass down the main straight.

Its nice to go quicker than everyone else, but there'll always be someone with a faster car. I still remember the last time the ARDA opened up Eastern Creek, and while I was going flat out down the main straight I had Hitman fly past me in his RX-7. It looked like my car wasn't moving.

LOL i think much the same way:)

The Lotus was a great car and no doubt would blow the doors off most prod cars. My vice is i would love the performance but cant afford an Exige, so a hack mod GTST can provide some thrills and be quick.

Would have been great to drive the Elise @ 100% with good rubber as it would have perhaps been as quick/quicker then the GTST. Given the chioce of keys id burn my GTST in a second for the Lotus:)

Its just that it was a 'Lotus' and driving one was an experience that i really enjoyed, but should of left me walkign away going the factory got it right, not me thinking an AVO turbo kit would wake it up:)

The only drawback was the rover engine let it down when you got stuck up it, in todays world you should be able to rely on engine technology for good power to complement the light weight...it seems they now do that with the Celica motors:)

...and i love hammering back thru the gears and braking late and throwing the car into corners...but i think i would equally love grabbing 4th gear and accelerating past 200km/h like it was 2nd gear and 100km/h:) So one day i will get behind the wheel of twin turbo V8 Espirit or TVR:)

I work with some Poms who are also car nuts, and apparently the pride that TVR has that everything in the car is British (down to its nuts, bolts and screws) is well founded. They tend to fall apart on you, if they're in working order.

The Elise is still technically a drivable street car, so its still compromised. Its setup is relatively understeery (but, according to Motor, so is the hardcore Porsche 996 RS, where a rollcage, harnesses and 2kg extinguisher are the only options), and so a lot of track minded owners tend to swap out the suspension on any car they buy.

I still think it would make a great platform for a weekend / track car, and customise it to suit my driving style and needs. I'd want one with the Celica motor, get a free flowing induction system that's still street legal, adjustable streetable suspension and some R-spec tyres and it would suit me perfectly.

It wouldn't suit someone who just wants a quiet country cruise (but most of them would buy an MG TF or something soft I suppose), and it won't be the ultimate track weapon, so those people might find my "perfect" car too underdone, just like we find the factory one lacking...

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