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well they wud both be around mid 14s really if in pretty damn good nick...

Generally its just the 180s lighter weight that makes em quicker, s15 SR20s make the same power as R34 RB25s!!! And more torque aswell, dont quiet get how but seen proof in SPEED mags dyno. S13 sr20s arent as powerful stock or done up (dont ave vvti and smaller turbos etc) but still very good bang for buck and heaps of potential.

300rwhp in a 180sx is alot faster than 300rwhp in an R33

These are the times i consistently see:

Dead Stock sr20det s13 (silvia/180sx) - 14.5 secs

Dead Stock r33 gts-t - 15.3 secs

I remember when I had my s13 before the exhaust mod, I lined up against a friend in his modified r33 gts-t with fmic, exhaust and boost.. he was a bit ahead but could not pull away from me.

We had another race when I got the 3" straight through system on and I left him behind by a couple of car lengths.

Consequently all the gtst's I lined up against after that that did not have serious amounts of work done to them got smoked..

When your sitting behind the wheel they just feel bigger and heavier.

See i disagree, i think the R33s weight isnt much of a problem, being behind the wheel of one quiet abit before i was VERY suprised at how easy you can chuck them aswell. They dont feel like heavy cars at all, maybe due to the rb25 engine im not sure but they are very very very well built cars!! Saying that of course the s13-s15 range is going to feel lighter they are aswell as being smaller, go in an Integra and you'll think the same about an s13 lol

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