S-AFC tuning

[G0DF4Th3R]

hey guys,

lets just assume i have an S-AFC, where is the best place to get it fixed (in terms of both price and quality of tune)? how much would it cost roughly?

thanks

bambam

[R34]

Glen Campbell at C-Red

Cheers

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Steve at SST is good, I'll keep using him for all of my tuning.

See'ya:burnout:

[skyzerr33]

should only take 1 hour max. so depending what they charge for an hour of dyno time expext between $110-150.

Glenn at C-red, Brett at PSI or Barry seem to have the best track record atm

[G0DF4Th3R]

thanks for the advice guys....

i'll definately go ahead with the S-AFC when i get back

[Hicks]

Barry's dyno, I highly recomend him. And expect to pay less than $100 bucks hey.

[G0DF4Th3R]

kewl.... then i'll have to get my turbo back done as well....only have catback for the moment.

[rev210]

Barry eh?

I might give this guy a go. I've just recieved the new S-AFC 2 this afternoon, I hope he can read japanese:D

[Hicks]

Cool, whats the safc 2 like?

Any differences??

[rev210]

Originally posted by Hicks

Cool, whats the safc 2 like?

Any differences??

Quite a bit more tuning resolution, 12 vs 8 points and increments of 200rpm vs 500rpm.

It has one more wire for the knock sensor input. Handy for tuning without the dyno.

It took me just under 2hrs to install and get running, these things are too easy:D

I might have to copy someones low and high throttle mixture settings to have a better play.

Hicks, can you tell me what you have for the low and high ranges, also the percentage throttle for low and high.

I have followed the jap manual's reccomendations about a setting to try, it's a little better perhaps (hard to tell driving around the suburbs) but I don't think it's all that flash.

I'll leave the settings on '0' for the drags tommorow and have a muck around while I'm there.

[ix9]

SAFCII sounds alright.. i;ll definitely be going for one in my next big "mod-up" in June (tax return time!)

[GTS-t VSPEC]

rev210,

Congrats on the purchase, it will be interesting to hear what the tuners have to say about the SAFCII, I'd be pretty sure that it will be the same to tune but the extra points will provide a much better curve. Let us know when you have it tuned and the results.

See'ya:burnout:

[MrGTST]

Hmmm..... These guys that you are recommending..... Can they do all types of work??? I ask becuase I am looking into buying the Apexi SAFC, AVC-R and a second hand GTR cooler and I want to find a place that has a good rep/record to fit all three into my car...

[rev210]

Gts-Vspec.

If people can give some of their settings for the S-AFC on the RB25det with stock turbo , I'll get an idea of the curve to use and I'll do a bit of tuning at the drags tonight.

The knock sensor input is great, I used it to look at timing last night its very helpful(and sensitive) and I'd say with the data log (all 30sec of it) you could do a half decent job of road tuning.

[macka]

Originally posted by rev210

Barry eh?

I might give this guy a go. I've just recieved the new S-AFC 2 this afternoon, I hope he can read japanese:D

Isnt it SAFC3?

No 1 had knobs no 2 had blue screen

Or is it called SAFC2?

[GTS-t VSPEC]

MrGTST,

In general all of the tuners mentioned will tune just about anything, they all have there favourites that they are especially good at.

rev210,

Hicks should be there tonight, so hopefully you can get some rough guidelines from him, but seeing as all cars act a little different even on the factory computer I'm not sure how useful it will be. Hope to see you there tonight and have a look at the new purchase.

See'ya:burnout:

[rev210]

yeah its called the S-afc II on the controller and box, but its the third release model. The first being the one with 'dials' and no blue screen. The second the blue screen, this one blue screen with no buttons just a playstation anolgue style joystick and jog dial.

[rev210]

Gtst-vspec,

See you there, it looks like it might be a little cooler tonight, have to see how much humidity we get also. Your running a haltech right? I used to play with those back in the F7B days, so easy to tune.

The factory map is much the same for everyone if they have the same computer, the differences in car mods have an impact but, the same shape of correction curve is used to extract more power.

I don't want to re-invent the wheel I guess and I strongly suspect that those with a good S-afc tune all have a similar graph. We don't know for sure because no one has ever posted a log of settings for others to compare. On something common and simple like a S-afc having a little archive would be great to help people come at the concept as well as help us driveway and road tuners save time.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

rev210,

I actually run the new Wolf Ver 4. Seems to be good, and very soon I'll have anti-lag and rotational idle to boot, firmware updates.

I thought that the AFM would have a large impact on the tuning of the SAFC's, and seeing as each AFM has it's own curve, unfotunately they aren't actually linear, then the difference in settings between cars could be large.

See'ya:burnout:

[rev210]

The weird thing is the Jap manual has 3 different setting reccomendations for Hi and Low maps, that they provide a graph for to show the effect that each has on the A/F ratio across the rpm. The same reccomendations are made for the RB25det Neo, which has its own page, although the throttle Hi/Lo % is different. This is different between the series I the series II and the Neo R34 RB25DET, but the map stays the same.