R32 vs R33

[red17]

The 32 GTS-4 weighs ALOT more than the 32 GTSt.... specs I have indicate the difference is as much as 130kg. Even if thats exaggerated and the difference is only 50kg.... its still alot.

The GTS-4 might be alot rarer, but the GTSt is no doubt the quicker.

Red17

PS: who cares whether a 32 or 33 is better, theyre all good!

[Guest INASNT]

Joel

The R32 ecu changes an can be changed and tinkered with but the r33 cant be so the r32 should get more power increases.

[SmoothLine]

My preference is R33 and i totally agree with what nark said... We all make our own choices... age isnt a factor for me... if i liked the 32 better i would have bought one, even though its older...

Well said Nark

[CroatianR33]

I reckon the 33 is 400 times better looking but the interior doesnt meet upto the looks of the body on the r33...but u can always fix up the interior a bit!!

[fatz]

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[T0nyGTSt]

This is one of those arguments that goes around every so often.

And it's because none of use can afford the R34 M-Spec Nur II we really want.

I don't think weight is such a great issue. I just had my car weighed and it was 1,380kg on the dot just as the shipping company said. I suspect there has been some lightening work somewhere as this is not normal as it is pretty well loaded.

My goal is 245kW at the crank, maybe 200rwkW. This is the 330hp that the BMW M3 can do at the crank.

I'm pretty sure this is available with the OEM ceramic turbo. But what it came down to is what I could afford, what I wanted without going overboard in engine mods and what I felt was attractive. I like the last of the '95 Series 1 Skylines...

By the same token I like the r33 GT-R V-Spec II and this is ultimately what I want even though I may be able to afford an r34... I just like the way the "33" looks.

T.

[Cubes]

Inanst. What I mean is when the ECU is left stock.

Fit a FMIC to a Stock ecu R33 and you will notice an improvement over the stock ecu running 11psi or what ever.

Do the same to a R32 and you won't seem to pick up much power compared to the R33.

[gtr13]

another vote for the R33 the 33 gtr's just look way tougher then the r32 GTR's and have a much more modern look they just have an awsome stance with the fatter and more rounded gaurds.

[Cubes]

True.

Stock for stock the R32's look better. The R33's look a little like the wheels are way way to small and poxy.

R32 with slightly wider wheels on the stock rims look tougher.

[Guest davidpandev]

the gts4 is much kwicker then a gtst due to its traction off the mark while the gtst is spinning on the mark the gts4 is off 4wd is a big advantage!!!!!!!!!

[red17]

davidpandev,

Ok, if you say so. A little proof would be nice. Show me something like a timeslip and id be happy to admit defeat to the almighty attessa.

But until then, ill stick to having 130kg's less thanks

Red17

[Morgs]

GTS4 is slower stock for stock, and perhaps with minor mods.

Once you get into big mods ie a bigger turbo etc it will be quicker in a straight line with the added benefit of traction.

For instance kabab did a 60 footer of 2.1 sec in his R32 GTSt with exhaust/boost on a 14.2 sec run... I dont see a GTS4 pulling any quicker than that with the extra weight... maybe a 2.0 or 1.9 sec 60 footer is possible.. but MPH will be down

[Cubes]

davidpandev that is true in theory but it isn't quick enough to make a difference.

I've sat next to a R33 GTR with a 5000rpm launch with my 2wd (I launched at 4000rpm).

I ended up in front all the way through to 4th where we backed off.

All comes down to tyres, road surface and grip. If it spins buy better tyres. That is whatsisnames motto I guess. 257rwkw.

A GTS4 with exhaust stock IC and 12psi wouldn't hang in front of a GTR.

At the time that is what I was running 12psi, fuel pressure reg bleed kit, exhaust and stock IC and making 152rwkw.

[HSVKLR]

Speaking of R32 and R33 GTSTs does anybody know the factory performance figures (0-100km/h and 0-400m) for these cars when stock and what sort of power they have at the wheels???

Just interested to know what i have to start with...

Additionally, what sort of gain to FMIC give power wise??

[T0nyGTSt]

The numbers in my head for the r33 GTS-t is 6.2 for the 0-100 and 14.2 for the quarter.

Official Nissan times.

T.

[Cubes]

I saw a site that had factory specs.

Apparently the R33 is 6.2 0-100 and 14.2.

I can't remember the 0-100 for the R32 but the 1/4 is 14.3.

For the GTST that is. The GTS4 R32 is slightly slower.

With regards to a FMIC giving you free power on a R32 it wont.

R33 for some reason yes don't know why but R32 no.

The only difference you will notice is better performance when hammering it through the hills. I used to notice the car get slightly slower as the stock IC got heatsoaked I guess.

It also allows you to run more boost so i guess it does give you more power in a way.

I'm running 16psi on the stock turbo and have been now for some time without problems.

[T0nyGTSt]

The reason why you get good gains with a large FMIC on a r33 is that the OEM I/C is a load of rubbish. It truly is a pathetic sized device.

T.

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by tlai909

The reason why you get good gains with a large FMIC on a r33 is that the OEM I/C is a load of rubbish. It truly is a pathetic sized device.

T.

Ahmen to that.

But the stock R32 1 cant be that much different

[Cubes]

It is strange.. Maybe the R33 ECU is more intelligent. Takes advantage of the cooler air.

[NismoR34]

If its a gtr then out of r32/33 id go r32.

Comparing gtst I would go r33 over 32.

Comparing an r32 GTR with an r34GTT? For a similar amount of money I chose the r34. IMO, a much nicer place to be inside the cabin, more modern, newer car, less kms for $, [yes i know mark skaife has one with less than 15,000kms on the clock but how much would it cost?]. It is a nicer / smoother drive, very similar power from the factory and its not a 10 year old car [i already had a 10 yo and i wanted something much newer].

If money wasnt an issue then give me the NUR spec