So I Get Home, There I See A Letter From The Epa

[NateR31]

What would you do?

I drive a r31 to work everymorning, all it has is a 2 1/2 catback, i know for a fact its not THAT loud, not really loud at all, it seems that somone has complaind about it

Do i have to pay anything to get the test done? And if i fail what kinda fine's am i looking at, even tho its impossible to fail!

Do i have to pay even if it passes? This is pretty gay, all i was doing was driving to work

[Paradizzle]

Do you have old annoying neighbours? Or a neighbour who is a hermit and have not seen for 4 years?

Damn Neighbours!!

[NateR31]

Do you have old annoying neighbours? Or a neighbour who is a hermit and have not seen for 4 years?

Damn Neighbours!!

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not reallly, theres afew fags in my street that have loud cars, but on the paper it had the offence written down on a main road, now, if i went by at 80kms, i dont think you would hear much, and if i was at the lights, you cant hear anything at idol

[Jamezilla]

Test costs $27

Sucks - but them's the breaks

I got a letter from when my car was stationary - they saw the large exhuast and assumed it was loud...

Which it was - put that's not the point

[NateR31]

Test costs $27

Sucks - but them's the breaks

I got a letter from when my car was stationary - they saw the large exhuast and assumed it was loud...

Which it was - put that's not the point

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wow, $27 because somone wants to be a fag, thats $27 of fuel i could of had...

[NickR33]

cops showed up at my house one morning and I crapped myself because they had complaints of a loud car by a neighbour... but it turned out it was my old mans Alfa that had been complained about! and the cop just spent 10mins chatting to him and left without so much as a warning!

[AGE]

Welcome to the wonderfull world of the EPA....i've had 3 this year ....thats what ya get with a exhaust that has been tested at 89.7db, and a slightly deaf cop. The best place to get a EPA notice is from a booze bus!!

There's 2 types of EPA letter,

Letter 1 is just a noise test, where you take your car along to any of the licensed tester that are on the back of info notice that you recieved. (my personnel pick is Cheltenham ) The tester/exhaust shop bloke, will just test the db level of the car....the lucky number is <90db.

Letter 2, is a trip to the EPA testing centre in Macleod. Now the secrect for this test, is to take everything back to stock, as they test emissions, check under the bonnet, and a noise test. This is the letter you don't won't!!!!!!!!

Now letter 1 did cost $27, it has now gone up in price to $30-$35 (i can't rememebr )

Letter 2 cost's nothing, unless you fail. If you fail, you get a "greeny" sticker (it's not a sticker and looks the same as a canary, except green and usally falls of the windscreen after one warm day). The greeny is a notice that the car has failed a EPA test, and has 28 days to be fixed or be taken off the road. You can't sell the car with this sticker on...basically the same deal as a canary.

Hope that helps B)

[krzysiu]

Yup, when i went for mine it was like $35. The guy only chanrged me once because i failed the first time with a whopping 111DB, got him to make me a custom end pipe which decreased it to 2 1/4inch and a normal mulfer and i just passed (89DB).

Mate you should pass no problems, simple cuz i had a 3 inch all the way including dump and with that custom end piece it passed.

Mind you i got home and straight away swapped my beautiful 4.5inch cannon on

Edited October 10, 2005 by krzysiu

[R31Nismoid]

His car is N/A different bag of fishes.

90dB is VERY quiet.

a STOCK GTR exhaust wont even pass anymore since the Gov't changed the rules a while ago.

You could well be over. Only way to know it go for the test

I didnt think i was too loud but i cracked in @ 120dB and that was @ 4500rpm not the correct 4800rpm which they didnt even bother going to

Its totally absured yes, you do have to pay $35 for the test.. even if you pass. So much for innocent until proven guilty

An EPA wasnt even heard of 3-4 years ago in general terms like it is today.

It simply put is nothing more than revenue raising from the Bracks Gov't.

Not the EPA themselevles are they are just contractors doing the bidding of the wonderful Victorian Gov't.

I know ill be voting a certain filthy scumbag out of office come election time

[ctjet]

what do you expect driving skylines around.........every dumb ass cop knows they can defect a skyline; 90% of em are illegally modified whether the owner sees it that way or not. Bottom line is your in the wrong. You can keep telling yourself your not and keep paying the fines. Me personally i f*cked off my skyline for a stock s2000. Sure its not as quick but at least i dont get pulled over and fined every week for something or another and i can drive it where i want, when i want wihtout any trouble.

[Kaz200]

ctjet: Since when should a choice of car be restricted because of potential harrassment? Some are not, but many of the things they defect you for are ridiculous, so everyone is not always in the wrong or trying to be, like you suggested.

Do you have a H pattern on your gearknob? Do you need one to be able to drive? Well apparently you do but most manual drivers would disagree and I certainly wouldn't let someone drive my car who needs one. I could go on about other ridiculous defects, but I CBF.

And don't be unclear on it, there's nothing stopping someone who doesn't like you, from putting in a smoky vehicle report so you too have to pay the $35.

If you are keen on badmouthing skylines and their drivers, wtf are you doing on *this* forum? Just because you'd be happy to live under a dictatorship doesn't mean the rest of us would, no need to preach your propaganda here.

Yello4: thanks for the clarification, I don't think I've actually seen someone explain the epa process on the forum yet.

[CNR33]

Amen Kaz! lol

[ctjet]

Since when should a choice of car be restricted because of potential harassment??

--well since right now you moron. Yes driving a skyline will get you pulled over. Yes you will get defected if you have a loud exhaust,BOV, any other modifications that the cop thinks are illegal. Yes cops hate skylines.

And don't be unclear on it, there's nothing stopping someone who doesn't like you, from putting in a smoky vehicle report so you too have to pay the $35.

--I've been there and done that with the EPA's on my last car; r33 gts-t with straight pipe exhaust, no cat, no resonator. Sounds fantastic but what do you expect of course i got done leb style by the cops and EPA. With my current car i get left alone which is why i had to get rid of my skyline; i loved that car to bits but i cbf with all the crap that came along with it and i didnt' want to have it stock.

If you are keen on badmouthing skylines and their drivers, wtf are you doing on *this* forum? Just because you'd be happy to live under a dictatorship doesn't mean the rest of us would, no need to preach your propaganda here.

--I'm not bad mounthing skylines or their drivers you f*ckwit. All i said is what do you expect? If you have a skyline with an exhaust or modified your bound to get an EPA sooner or later...people put illegal modifications on then bitch and moan when they get done. Lets face it even with a stock skyline you will still get pulled over; i returned mine to stock just before i sold it and i still used to get pulled over for random checks. Nothing was illegal on the car and the cops would me go.

Its simple..if you want to get left alone keep your car legal. If you want to have all the modifications etc on it then go ahead, but dont come on here bitching like a whore when you get done........

[krzysiu]

i really couldnt find anything that dramatic about your post ctjet... Not having a good day Kaz?

[saff_cossie]

what do you expect driving skylines around.........every dumb ass cop knows they can defect a skyline; 90% of em are illegally modified whether the owner sees it that way or not. Bottom line is your in the wrong. You can keep telling yourself your not and keep paying the fines. Me personally i f*cked off my skyline for a stock s2000. Sure its not as quick but at least i dont get pulled over and fined every week for something or another and i can drive it where i want, when i want wihtout any trouble.

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Unfortunately that is quite a true post.

I am sure there are a massive amount of other illegal cars also on the road, not neccesarily illegally modifed but are in an illegal state. Skylines are easy pickings. A standard commodore with 4 bald tyres doesnt scream pull me over but a BOV on a skyline does.

In my experience it is down to three things in this order:

How you drive

Where you drive

What you drive

In nearly 8 years of driving I have never been pulled over or breathalised so I will reserve judgement until then.

My 2c

[AGE]

Yello4: thanks for the clarification, I don't think I've actually seen someone explain the epa process on the forum yet.

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When i get my next EPA notice, i'm thinking of taking DIY photographs....or maybe a short film :lol: :lol:

[R31Nismoid]

what do you expect driving skylines around.........every dumb ass cop knows they can defect a skyline; 90% of em are illegally modified whether the owner sees it that way or not. Bottom line is your in the wrong. You can keep telling yourself your not and keep paying the fines. Me personally i f*cked off my skyline for a stock s2000. Sure its not as quick but at least i dont get pulled over and fined every week for something or another and i can drive it where i want, when i want wihtout any trouble.

Listen here keyboard jockey

you can be defected for something as dumb as an empty washer bottle.

But im sure in all your wisdom, and expiriance of the greater world you already know that...

As a question, do you check yours everytime you drive out of your driveway?

Just incase?

Even a stock car can be defected. Explain how that works.

Driving a skyline should not make you a target, and i'd like to know where your figure of 90% are illegally modified.

If your gonna make a statement with some figures your gonna have to back it up with some credential about you being an expert (this will be the thing we are all waiting for i bet)

If a car passes an EPA there should be no fee as a large number so pass especially with some of the Jap Brand exhausts which are under the dB limit anyway

[Mr. Oizo]

It's because you're black.

[NateR31]

It's because you're black.

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oh well, its ok, the new beast is up and on the road B) , 1inch exhuast of powahhh!!

Well, i dont have time todo this EPA test, so now what? Yes i mabey 5mins from the chetenhame exhuast shop, but im working everyday!

[R31Nismoid]

you have to get it tested.

there is no way around it.

There is a time limit, you can have it extended for a short period.

most places are open on Sat anyhow