Consult Software Discussion Thread

[46n2]

Now that there are a few people with NewKleer's Consult Interface kits I thought I'd start a thread for the software and any questions / issues / ideas that people are having with it.

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This interface should work with most generic consult software. Only issue ive found thus far is that rom dumping doesnt work on Nissan Datascan, but works fine on Calumsult.

Datascan

Calumsult - use this .exe (placed in same directory) if you have problems with rom dumping - normal .exe has resume on rom dump and more gauges, old exe doesnt but seems to work better (or so the author has said)

Conzult

OBD ScanTech Nissan

TECU

[46n2]

So, to get the ball rolling:

I've had a look at Datascan on a friend's laptop and I can't get the Active Cylinder tests to work.

From the engine manual it seems that the Nissan Consult uses a program card. Is the software meant to be model specific? Has anyone else managed to turn off 1 cylinder at a time using the active tests?

[NewKleer]

ive been able to turn cylinders off/on on my old rb25 silvia.

not all cars support the cylinder tests in the same way. unfortunately sr20's have it a different way, not sure if any software supports it that way (check out sr talk or whatever its called)

[46n2]

I should have said that I have an RB20DET What's SR Talk? is that another program?

EDIT: found it

Beta version is currently on ZControl

SRTalk **BETA**

[justin911]

i got one of them consult cables a while back from newkleer, worked great

Only problem i had in my rb25 (using all of the software packages) was that when throttle was 0% open, software would report it 20% open..

and then when it was realy 100% open.. software would report it 80% open.

[46n2]

Was the "TPS Closed Switch" showing ON when the throttle was closed? (OBDScantech has it in monitor).

[RANDY]

My R33 using SRtalk reported my TPS at 8% when idle. It seems to measure voltage like an 02 sensor would. With Conzult-free, it measured 0.42v or something.

So I dunno about these discrepencies...

Those two programs are the easiest to setup and start using right away, OBD and TECU were fussy for me, and TECU didn't support a COM port above 4, so it didn't want to look at my USB consult cable. =-/

Calumsult I never got working.... full package or not.

I'm currently looking into getting the full (Conzult-sx)Conzult program, but at $75 Euro's, it's pretty pricey. =-[ The free version does a lot of monitoring, but I wanted the ECU-learning reset feature and all the other tests such as the HICAS, A/C etc...

[NewKleer]

throttle it supposed to be a voltage, so anyone that displays it as a % is just guessing to its range (eg assuming its 0-5v when its not)

[RANDY]

So as I suspected, 0.42v has to be interpreted by the software into a percentage to make it look user-friendly...

[Nightcrawler]

can anyone verify that SRTalk just sits there and does nothing if you ask for the error codes and there are no error codes/problems. My engine won't start (engine light flashing), yet SRTalk just sits there saying 'getting error codes', but that's all!

[NewKleer]

dont use srtalk if u dont have an sr...

i could never get anything useful out of it on the rb25

[Nightcrawler]

I have an Sr mate - I am talking about my S15 that has the problem .... everything else works perfect! I just think maybe if you have no error codes, the software just sits there and does nothing when you ask it to report error codes. Conzult works fine too, but does the same thing with the error codes.

[NewKleer]

they all should report either no faults, or code 55 (which means no faults for most cars). althought i cant remember specifically what conzult or srtalk does for them.

[RANDY]

SR talk asks you to choose your engine... in my case, i put a dot next to "RB25DET", and all the values appeared correctly.

When I used it last, and checked error codes, it came back and said something like "no errors found!" with a smiley face.

Your mate is trying it with the ignition on, right? I think I tried that function with the engine RUNNING. When I turn the car off, and my alarm (built in turbo timer) takes over, the software just stops reporting anything.

Possibly SRTalk doesn't run without the engine running? NewKleer, which circuit does the power wire in the consult harness run off? Is the power from accessories or...?

[NewKleer]

normally its wired up to IGN on, so u need it on reds for it to work. depends how ur car is wired for turbo timer as to whether it will continue to work or not when timer on

i havent tried srtalk recently, seems its changed a bit since i used it last if it works with rb25's now

[Nightcrawler]

yeah I was using it with the ignition on - it saw the ECU fine.

I have had an auto techinician out and he ran his fancy consult machine, and it also says no fault codes.

We have diagnosed it down to being the factory immobiliser. When the car is off, the immobiliser light on the dash flashes like it should. However, when you turn the ignition to the 'on' position, the immobiliser light turns on hard red, and the engine won't fire (which is typical of an immobiliser). Both the auto tech and Nissan haven't heard of this before - so I will have to get the car towed to Nissan for them to problem solve it

[RANDY]

yikes... fair point! So one of the points it immobilises is obviously the starter motor, considering you get ignition.

My immobiliser cuts ignition also, so I get no HICAS, airbag, etc lights on the dash, and no fuel-pump priming until I un-immobilise it.

[RANDY]

If you can find it, check the relay for the starter motor? It might not be your immobiliser possibly? Tried hill-starting it?

[NewKleer]

When the car is off, the immobiliser light on the dash flashes like it should. However, when you turn the ignition to the 'on' position, the immobiliser light turns on hard red, and the engine won't fire (which is typical of an immobiliser).

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i know this might sound obvious, but are you sure the immobiliser is actually off when u try to start the engine?

[Nightcrawler]

the immobiliser is factory .... all S15/200SXs have them, and it automatically activates when you remove the key, and automatically disarms when you put the key back in (the key has a small chip in it, which must be matched to the immobiliser when in the ignition).

Hill starting won't work, as there is no fuel being supplied to the cylinders.

Thanks for your ideas though guys - keep them coming if you think of anything.

I am actually wondering whether the immobiliser has a relay somewhere, and that has failed?