Turboed+v8's And Supercharged

[saff_cossie]

Hmmm,

well let me add my 2c.

Coming from Germany I can tell you it is Way too easy to get your licence in Australia. 

Over there you do Freeway driving, emergency braking, wet weather, night time, all road surfaces and general maintenance and mechanics of a car over at least a years worth of lessons.  It's an involved (and expensive) process but means that you actually have a clue about how to drive (you'd want to with the Autobahns and all ;-)

So the biggest problem is not the cars but the training.  Add to that the fact that Australian roads are in a pathetic state of repair and the fact that cars do not need an annual road worthy check over here and you get a fairly good reason why things are the way they are.

If you fix these issues you won't need to limit the cars.  That is just a 'knee jerk' reaction because everything else is too complex for the simple minds in Spring Street (or Canberra for that fact)

As an aside I am now in my late 30's and only now feel confident enough to consider buying a GT-R  ;-)

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Exactly the same with the UK except the motorways are supposed to be limited

Cost me a small fortune to learn but did all of the above include snow driving etc. I was shocked when I went through the learning with my g/f here how easy it was and how she was forewarned of what they would be assessing on.

Uk has around the 40% first time pass rate. I passed 3rd time and paid around $1500 to learn. I had a bonus lesson after on motorways as you are not allowed on them when learning.

Good post B)

[AMS]

Yeah this rule sucks balls - especially in NSW

Although there are exemptions, one which I have

[**JaR**]

Hmmm,

well let me add my 2c.

Coming from Germany I can tell you it is Way too easy to get your licence in Australia. 

Over there you do Freeway driving, emergency braking, wet weather, night time, all road surfaces and general maintenance and mechanics of a car over at least a years worth of lessons.  It's an involved (and expensive) process but means that you actually have a clue about how to drive (you'd want to with the Autobahns and all ;-)

So the biggest problem is not the cars but the training.  Add to that the fact that Australian roads are in a pathetic state of repair and the fact that cars do not need an annual road worthy check over here and you get a fairly good reason why things are the way they are.

If you fix these issues you won't need to limit the cars.  That is just a 'knee jerk' reaction because everything else is too complex for the simple minds in Spring Street (or Canberra for that fact)

As an aside I am now in my late 30's and only now feel confident enough to consider buying a GT-R  ;-)

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

good post.

[Freddy Kruger]

Hmmm,

well let me add my 2c.

Coming from Germany I can tell you it is Way too easy to get your licence in Australia. 

Over there you do Freeway driving, emergency braking, wet weather, night time, all road surfaces and general maintenance and mechanics of a car over at least a years worth of lessons.  It's an involved (and expensive) process but means that you actually have a clue about how to drive (you'd want to with the Autobahns and all ;-)

So the biggest problem is not the cars but the training.  Add to that the fact that Australian roads are in a pathetic state of repair and the fact that cars do not need an annual road worthy check over here and you get a fairly good reason why things are the way they are.

If you fix these issues you won't need to limit the cars.  That is just a 'knee jerk' reaction because everything else is too complex for the simple minds in Spring Street (or Canberra for that fact)

As an aside I am now in my late 30's and only now feel confident enough to consider buying a GT-R  ;-)

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

im quoting it again coz its a great post. you can disagree with it, provide better training and better roads and there would be less death of newer drivers.

thos one thing for a new driver is a little bit ofpower to get out of tight situations, such as crawling out from a blind corner you have the acceleration there if you need it. i know in a situation like that i would have no hope in a car like my mums pulsar...

but the is the question why you need so mch power when you have only driven by yourself for 6 months... theres a guy on his Ps with an LS1 commie, straight out illegal on Ps, then he threw a supercharger on the side of it. its making 380+kw at the rears. now tell me why a p-plater needs that?

[SS8_Gohan]

you could argue why anyone would need that if it doesn't see any sort of track/drag work...

[Freddy Kruger]

you could also say why would a p-platers only car would need be used for track/drag work...

[stolen_s15]

This has not even been proposed!!!! I have a 100% reliable and informed contact in the highest level of the vic government, trust me when i saw it is not even being considered. However hoon laws are coming in, pretty much 3 strikes and you loose your ride for good. (stuff such as burnouts, street racing, exceeding speed limit by 45k+) Also some other little gay laws that cops can shaft us with, nothing particularly new just new names of laws for the same stuff with harsher penalties.

[DivHunter]

Driver training.

Not revenue raising.

Bracks can go to hell. They put all these BS laws, rules and regulations in and what happens? The road toll stays the same or goes up. The more money the Vic govt. has made the more people have died.

They'll never bring up the 10 year long study that found lowering speed limits caused MORE fatalities either. Who the hell voted for these morons anyway?