Smic For R33

[Kennedy]

Hey Guys,

I'm pretty sure that for my next mod I want to replace my SMIC rather than go the full FM.

I've seen a company called ARC that make an aftermarket SMIC which is apparently 30% bigger than stock. Are there any other manufacturers out there that have a similar product?

Pretty my I just wanna fit the largest SMIC in using the existing piping

[R31Nismoid]

Is there something wrong with the search button?

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...s&highlite=smic

[wolverine]

trust/greddy also make one that works fine too, they come up for sale 2nd hand occasionally but should provide enough flow for basic hi-flowed turbo (without quite testing the turbos upper limits) but with stock response or better.

[AzzurrA]

or an R34 GTT sidemount is 27% bigger than a standard R33 Sidemount

good for around 200kw @ wheels

[bluer33]

yeah, i heard about it but where to get 1. i've contact japimports n not availiable. if any 1 find 1 let me know plz, ive want 1 4 long time but cant get hold.

[raz0r$harP.UK]

Keep checking the for sale section - they come up pretty regularly.

[AzzurrA]

i know of a guy in QLD who will be selling his shortly... i will contact him and get him to send you a msg if he's still sellin it...

[Tangles]

ARC units come up very regularly on ebay.com, genrally straight from Japan. I recently saw a couple of R34 'coolers on ebay.uk, but hate to think what delivery might cost!

[paulr33]

is it a case of the stock SMIC is not good enough or the stock position is not good enough. Is there enough airflow to the core with 200rwkw, as around that level on stock rb25 is a higher level of stock boost, which i would presume heat up the intake charge, so you would want the SMIC doing the best it can, just wondering if its able to do so in the stock position

[wolverine]

paul, the advantage of the SMIC is that you have unimpeded airflow thru to the wheelarch and no hot radiator sitting behind it. a relatively short pipe run back helps response (which i reckon i can feel now i have an FMIC)

the disadvantage is the surface area to volume ratio isn't as favourable (vs FMIC) for heat exchange in the space. the trust unit has plenty of scope to go > 200rwkw.

given the cost of installing a FMIC vs SMIC they are a viable option for folks looking for good streetable power.

[MANWHOR3]

Paul r33. The problem with the stock smic is not the positino. It's fine. It's nicely ducted. There are two problems with it:

1. it's restrictive. That is, the cross sectional area is small, so it doesn't flow very well at high boost. That's why it's common to have a 2 psi drop at 12 psi. at stockish boost (like 8psi, it's not noticeable).

2. It doesn't cool very well. This is becaause it's so small. Need I say more?

A larger smic, is both thicker, taller and maybe even wider. I have an r34 smic. It's 20 mm thicker and I think about 1 inch taller (from memory, so someone correct me if i'm wrong).

It has been worked out that the cross sectional area is 60% better, so it should be less restrictive. Furthermore, the extra thickness and height means it has more cooling surgace

[maximumrpm]

ebay has a couple of arc side mounts for around $350 at the moment...the core measure 30cmx30cmx12cm thick as i have one on my car at the moment...and yes they are rated at 200rwkw...when you work out the area of a hybrid at 60cmx25cmx5cm the surface area is similar

[AMS]

Go for the GTT I/C....Thats what I'm runnning. Nice and cheap too

[Kennedy]

Thanks Guys. Gonna go sound mount then. I still have the stock airbox aswell and thinking about replacing it with a pod. Would that just be a waste of time considering I won't have the CAI that I would get if I was running a FMIC ? Would the POD/SMIC combination be a crappy combo?

[maximumrpm]

i have pod and smic...its fine...just put a heat sheild....if you want it to look stock so you dont get any defects leave it as is and just get a better panel filter