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This is very true! they also count how many mufflers/cats you have and make a sketch of what your exhaust system looks like! so if you get caught a few times either get a 3" system made to comply with the allowed noise levels or pay the $30 to get new number plates lol

hmm i feel sorry for the bloke who started this thread... seems to be somewhat hijacked lol! as for profits in regard to gas kits... i'm not sure about other gas installers... however where i work is a general mechanical workshop... gasfitting is just one of our services... and its probably our lest profittable service ... however you provide people with a gas conversion at good competitive rates and give them good service... we'll usually get thier business again later on down the track servicing thier car!

Your dead right mate... They HAVE TO show you thier badge ID name and number ... otherwise how are you to know they are really a police officer... they could be anyone! if they refuse to show you thier badge id and name well as far as you are concerned they are not a police officer and you can do what you like... drive off, not listen to them etc

nah s15 isnt on gas, and no plans to do so either, as its forsale however my daily driver (au falcon) is on gas and its definatly the way to go.. filling the tank costs $35 any with a heavy foot i get 320km for my $35 in reply to madbung. i understand your frustration.. but everyone needs to make profit mate. its generally not the installation prices that have increased... its the cost of the kits... so you can blame companies like global gas, sprint gas, euro gas and parnelle for the increased prices ... that all being said, its still much cheaper then running a dedicated petrol system. we've recently been getting fantastic results from vapour sequential injection kits including better then ever fuel economy and close to no power losses, so all those waiting out for liquid injection. if your after bang for buck and do a fair bit of driving ... the vapour sequential injection kits are still fantastic.. although expect a 6 - 12 week wait on installation... as the suppliers of the kits cannot keep up with the demand

nah at this stage we only do mixer gas and vapour injection... liquid injection is very new to australia it has been around in europe for a little bit... its performance and economy has been proven.. however as far as its reliability and problems are concerned it is still unexplored territory ... so were are going to steer clear of installing them for about another year yet. as far as i know only one company are offering it at the moment.. and afterinstallation support is a big thing in the gas automotive industry, and as many people dont know... most gas kits will void thier vehicle warrenty... so knowing the reliablilty of a product is a major issue ... even though we generally do offer a suplimentary warrenty on engine damage at an extra cost for a bit of extra protection... however I expect the liquid injection kits to be widely available in a year or more as i have heard good things from them so far! as for the Topic Starter.. i noticed you talking about which type or size of tank to use as you have limited room - how about getting a doughnut tank to sit in the spare wheel carrier... you can get ones with 50-60L of useable gas .... and just get an racv membership incase of a flat ... or even "spare tyre in a can" is a popular alternative lol or even if you dont want the previous idea you could opt for whats called a manifold tank, which consists of various thin cylinders mated together to create a large tank that is very thin! and can be custom made to size, that way you dont have a massive thick cylinder that will hang low to the ground and be visable from behind! these tanks are made by APA... but i tihnk other companies do them to

Not enitrely true!~ im not disputing that the price for gas installations hasnt gone up! however it certainly hasnt gone up $2000! it has only increased a few hundred dollars! so really it is still a massive help! you can get a mixer/converter global or sprint gas system on an older holden or ford for ~$2500 ... so are you trying to tell me a gas conversion used to be less then $500? haha dont think so... the reason for the expensive gas systems are because they are using vapour injection nowadays on newer cars and tough emmision laws state you have to have vapour injection on all cars newer then 2003 ... and the cheapest installed price on a vapour injection kit is about $4000. plus the expensive costs that the gas system companies have to pay to get thier gas kits emmission approved! before the grant was available these kits were brand new and if anything have settled in price with increased competition in the marketplace. so if the grant wasnt available you'd be paying a SHITLOAD more! also i can tell you.. where i work... we only put $100 markup on the kits we buy at trade price... which is next to nothing in comparison.. the money is made on labour costs and being able to knock out a gas conversion in 1 - 1.5 days

i work at an accredited AAFRB Gas fitting workshop, and i think you're going to run into a few problems with your $2000 rebate. medicare or centrelink (where you go to lodge your application for the rebate) will want to see a reciept for the conversion... and they wont accept bits and pieces reciepts because you've bought a tank from blow joe, a kit from someone else and then paid someone $500 to do a bit of labour! They want a whole receipt from an accredited AAFRB Gas fitter, and they will also want the details from the AAFRB compliance plate that will be fitted apon commisioning of the gas system... however you will not be given a compliance plate if the kit is not EPA approved now i'm not sure if the kit is approved or not... however i do know the workshop i work for installed vapour injection gas (what you apear to have) on my stepfathers 380, it was a Eurogas kit and was not approved.... and was the first 380 on gas in australia... but because eurogas expected more of them to be installed in the future, they paid the $10,000 and sent the car to sydney for emmisions approval... if this hasnt been done with the kit you are installing.. not only will you not be able to get a compliance plate for it, it will be illegal and you certainly wont get your rebate! just my 2c ... hope you've covered your bases!

haha yeah not long ago i went through a booze bus in the S15 (AUS spec so its legal on p's) and the cop stoped me as i was about to drive away, and said "why are you driving this car" hahah i just continually said "because i'm allowed to" with him answering "no you are not" ... i waited til i was holding up all 7 cars behind me as i was first in line.. then his fellow copers came over to see what was going on.. that was when i let it rip with precise nissan power figures and weight figures... even did the calculation showing it was under 125kw/tonne, which is the only power restriction law that governs me and showed him my birthday on my licence to prove when i got my p's. by this stage all 8 copers standing around my car went "yeah thats sounds fair" the cop who accused me went bright red in the face and went "well go on, get out of here"

they stuffed up bringing the laws in at all different times because there are some green p platers that can drive turbos and some that cant! so its all a bit of a mess for the next couple of years until it becomes plain and simple to the police as to who is allowed to do what! hey ric (HEKT1C) remember i once thought "yeah i'll slip through the cracks, everyone else gets away with it" and I didnt... hope you make it til december mate! only 122 days til i'm off my P's ... but who's counting

Depends what sort of gas system your talking about... - old style using a mixer and converter you do generally loose power although the impco kits are pretty good - Current vapour injected gas the losses are very minimal, almost unnoticeable where as what i think he is referring to when he says extra power is the new liquid gas injection systems that are becoming available on the market, however i wouldnt go near them for a couple of years as the technology is barely tried and tested! but gas being a higher octane rating, dedicated liquid gas injection with a computer tune to match will bring higher power levels at a lower running cost then petrol!

on this note.... i'm selling an immaculate 2001 ADM S15 .... (P PLATE LEGAL!!!)

don't want to offend.. but a fair few of the turbo boys are getting fuel economy figures similar to those also!

most everyday mechanics wont care about the modifiactions as long as they are sound and safe! eg. * make sure your coilovers arent leaking, * exhaust isnt leaking, * bushes arent cracked in suspesion parts * and seats are secure!

no they do not have a gtr gearbox .... they have a gts4 gearbox .. which is different to gts-t and gtr! - do not be fooled i put an excedy 32 gtr clutch in my 32 gts-4

sorry guys parts are no longer forsale!

yeah mate, no problems... doesnt matter if its a turblow or put' put' car ... the fact is its a skyline and its invinceable.. those engines just never blow!

haha why wait til next month to put your car on the market? you may aswell throw it on the market now... good chance it wont sell anyways... i've got 2 cars forsale at the moment... market is DEAD

nah, skylines are ok... they are the only car that the engine will never blow up... i swear!

cop sirens?

i just realised... ive got 3 cars and i only got one set of P's this is an OUTRAGE!!!!! haha lol

subaru have always made dog ugly cars... look at the subaru vortex *goes away to throw up* but i do like some of the cars they make... the 2002ish model gt liberty's were pretty noice looking!

just under 5 months til i can kiss these suckers goodbye *does a little dance, woohooo!!* you know this will confuse the shit out of the Po'Po coz there will still be kids on green p's with turbo restrictions etc etc and kids who arent... the smart thing would have been to bring all the rules and new plates in at once so it was a simple; green p's - basically no rules red p's - your stuffed if i see you with any passengers or a snail or past midnight lol!

spotted yellow R33 driving through eltham this arvo... may or may not have been mav

around town is pretty good ... about 500kms ... and a fair bit more on highway driving!

what are you asking for it if someone without something to swap for it is interested?