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Thankyou for another long reply for my limited intelligence to struggle to comprehend. My research was done for my own personal interests, as I don't like to gain all my information from the media, which has consistently spouted generalised and often misleading information about ethanol blended fuels. It was not formal research, but it was definately not anecdotal. That statement came out in 2004. It was in response to the media scaremongering about ethanol blended fuels. It basically states that Nissan can guarantee that all its cars purchased from that point on are perfectly safe to run on ethanol blended fuels up to e10. It was based on testing the cars in their current line-up, they would have no interest in buying back older models for testing. I don't know what the full effects of ethanol blended in fuels in Nissans is, and I never said I did. Alll I said was that as far as was aware, they have no policy towards e5 fuel, which is supported by Nissan Customer Service, but somewhat contradicted by their online FAQ. What anecdotal stories? The only info I've provided so far is from the Biofuels Taskforce. Hardly anecdotal stories. Also, Ethanol has been mixed with fuel in Australia since the 1920s. But as I said this is all old news, and has already been argued to death. As such I will try not to post in this thread anymore.

Some people get really upset over trivial things on the internet. I wonder if you would reply to a person in such a way in real life. I doubt it. If my post was of such low intelligence why bother crafting such a long reply to it? Oh well, you got your little ego boost for the day. If you read the quote that I provided from R31Nismoid who has contacted Nissan and found that: "There has been no press release on E5 at this stage and Nissan's stance is unknown at this point until testing completes....This is direct from Nissan Australia's Customer Relations Department on the use of E5 in pre-2004 vehicles." This is direct from Nissan, it says they have no stance towards e5 fuel. It is in a reply to a direct and specific question, not a generalised statement in Nissan FAQ.

My "research" was in regards to the detrimental effects of e5. Of which I could not find any engines which were proven to be damaged by it. Your link only provides Nissans warning against e10 fuel, that we are all already aware of. As I said afaik Nissan still has no policy in regards to e5 fuel. Also this has been debated at gret length in many other threads. R31Nismoid even went to the trouble of contacting Nissan, and found that a policy is still being formulated based on product testing. Just to avoid going over old arguments, heres a few links to some other threads about this fuel: http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...opic=96631&st=0 http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=95349 http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=95231 http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=95126 Theres more threads out there, these are just the ones that I could find easily searching. I think just about everything to be said about this fuel has already been said.

As I said Nissan has not discouraged the use of e5. From what I've researched there are almost no detrimental effects of e5, and it is extremely rare to hear of damage from e10. Many manufacturers discourage the use of e10 just to be safe, and the vast majority advise that e5 is perfectly safe. I'm sure Nissan's policy will be the same.

Heres some info from some other threads on this fuel. The following quote is from the Biofuels Taskforce. This taskforce is made up of the following people: * Dr Conall O'Connell, Deputy Secretary, Department of Environment and Heritage * Dr David Brockway, Chief, Division of Energy Technology, CSIRO * Dr John Keniry, Chairman Ridley Corporation Limited, and * Mr Max Gillard, Vice President and Chief Operating Officer, Toyota Technical Centre, Asia Pacific Australia.

No it won't. Like I said this has already been argued to death in many other threads.

Theres already plenty of threads on this fuel. When? I think you're getting confused with the warning against e10 fuel. I haven't heard anything about e5. Afaik its perfectly fine.

Australian Palm Pilot

It doesn't matter how you drive if you come up to a random breath test. They are just that: RANDOM. And if they see a p plater in a skyline, they will look over it, no doubt about it. If he lives in NSW, he will loose his licence if he get caught, so it really isn't worth it. May as well just wait a few years. If you're in NSW the best buy would probably be a VS commodore. They are quicker than most n/a skylines, especially r32s. They have the ecotec engine but without the weight of the VT. Also have IRS, so they don't handle too badly. This rule is to allow people to drive their parents car, if the only car their parents own is on the prohibited list. Or they live in rural areas, or need a certain type of car for work. From what I have heard these permits are extremely hard to come by, even with a very good excuse. You can not expect to get one by telling them that this is the only car you have. They will say that its your bad luck. Or more accurately, they will say that its your own stupid fault for buying a car your not allowed to drive.

The penalty for driving a prohibited vehicle on P1 or P2 licence is $375 and 7 demerit points. I believe on P1 you are allowed 4 demerit points and on P2 you are allowed 7, so if you get caught you will loose your licence. Hardly worth the risk IMO.

Like I said we are not going to run out, it will just be more expensive. Planes will still fly, we will still produce plastics etc. Also I believe the market will provide a solution, it always does. Already car manufacturers are spending billions on fuel cell and other technology, they know where the world is heading in regards to oil, and it is in their interest to find a solution. The same will happen in other oil dependant industries as well. So if you want to know if I worry about peak oil, the answer is no. Apart from my belief that the market will provide a solution, I also agree with madbung and others that there is no point worrying about something you have no control over. Besides, if we didn't have oil shortages, we would probably continue to pollute the planet until we had no clean air to breathe anyway.

As far as I know oil can always be made from shale, its just more expensive then drilling for it. So its not as if we're going to run out of oil, we are just going to run out of cheap oil. Which will cause economic problems. But just about every developed and some developing countries are researching and developing ways to reduce the worlds reliance on oil. The main problem is rapidly developing countries like China and India, and also the US which is guzzling just as much as usual. But we don't really have a good idea of how long the current oil reserves will last. Remember in the 1970s they thought the world would have run out of oil by now, but we haven't. So there are some doomsayers who will predict the worst, that WW3 will break out over oil, but really its anyones guess. Although it does have some truth though. The major basis for the Iraq war was for the US to secure oil reserves for the future, as they didn't want them in the hands of Saddam Hussein. So you could argue that the growing shortage of oil has already caused at least one war.

I did some searching not long ago: http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...opic=91513&st=0 http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...topic=1856&st=0 http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...wtopic=749&st=0 Hope that helps.

Latest photo from Cronulla riots

Thats some cough http://exodus.interoutemediaservices.com/?...delivery=stream

Why start two threads on the same topic? http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=98150

As someone already said you can put a small amount of pressure on the brake pedal so that they light up without actually slowing the car down. If someone is tailgaiting me for no reason (I don't hog lanes or drive like a granny), I will apply the brake pedal so that the brake lights light-up, but i don't slow down. If they still continue to sit on my arse, then I'll gradually slow down to about 20kph under the speed limit. They always then realise that you weren't driving like a granny before they started tailgaiting, and as such they and give you some room.

Personally I think the angles work well in some of those photos, but not in others. darK is right in that sense, that it does make it harder to look at sometimes. I guess it all comes down to the application of the dutch "ricer" angles.

The cops have been going after Leb gangs for years. I remember in the late 90s they brought over gang specialists from LA for advice on the best ways to stop the spread of gangs, as obviously we don't want to end up with a huge gang problem like LA. But the reason for the riots on Sunday was due to members of the Lebanese community going down to Cronulla and starting sh1t with the locals. It happens in a lot of places. I can understand their frustration, as I have seen it around my area as well. Some people say what happened on Sunday was people finally standing up for their area, and standing up against the trouble makers. But I'm sure you'll agree with me that what happened on Sunday can only cause more trouble, both in the short and long term. It has already caused trouble in the short term, with retaliatory attacks on cars, shops, churches, people etc. It will also cause trouble in the long term as more Lebanese feel they are not welcome and will be further alienated from Australian society, and may wish to cause even more trouble. (i.e. terror attacks) But at the same time, definate action has to be taken to stop gang members making other Australians (not just caucasians) feel that they are not safe in their own suburbs. It will require very complex solutions.

I always just put the brakes on a bit when I get someone tailgaiting me. It makes them slow down immeadiately. I'm talking about single lane roads of course, I don't hog the right lane on freeways. When someone sits ridiculously close to your car and you start driving about 20kph under the speed limit, they quickly decide to give you some room. Works for me anyway....has never made it worse.

^ Go bash the person that sent you the sms. I will help.

Well just off the top of my head I can think of a few problems: You would have to do your test in Queensland. If you did it in Victoria, then to apply for a qld licence, you would have to go into a qld transport office to fill in the appropriate paper work. You would have to convince them you are a Queenslander, with evidence of where you live. you can't just put down a postcode, you need a full address. Your Drivers Licence is your main form of ID. You need to show it when you do anything important with anybody (Gov. agency, bank, etc.). Which would mean you are a Queenslander to them. I'm not sure how you would get registration for a car in Victoria when you have a Queensland licence. Or insurance for that matter, considering your licence says you live somewhere other than where the car is kept. Could cause problems. These are just things off the top of my head. In short it is near impossible. Don't bother even thinking about it.

Handbrake hill starts are for girls. Just joking, you'll get the hang of it. Once you master the friction point you'll be able to hold the car in the same spot on a hill without any handbrake, just the right amount of clutch and accelerator, not good for the clutch though.

My only worry is that he will just assume we are all biased because this is a Skyline forum. Its not all bias, the reality is that the Skyline is the better car. I'd be interested to hear what points someone could put forth to say the vl is better, other than they like the look of them better.

A Mafia Godfather finds out that his book keeper has stolen ten million dollars from him. This book keeper is deaf. It was considered an occupational benefit, and why he got the job in the first place. Since it was assumed that a deaf book keeper would not be able to hear anything he'd ever have to testify about in court. When the Godfather goes to shake down the book keeper about his missing $10 million, he brings along his attorney, who knows sign language. The Godfather asks the book keeper: "Where is the 10 million bucks you embezzled from me?" The attorney, using sign language, asks the book keeper where the 10 million dollars is hidden. The book keeper signs back: "I don't know what you are talking about." The attorney tells the Godfather: " He says he doesn't know what you're talking about." That's when the Godfather pulls out a 9 mm pistol, puts it to the bookkeeper's temple, cocks it, and says: "Ask him again!" The attorney signs to the underling: "He'll kill you for sure if you don't tell him!" The bookkeeper signs back: "OK! You win! The money is in a brown briefcase, buried behind the shed in my cousin Enzio's Backyard in Queens!" The Godfather asks the attorney: "Well, what'd he say?" The attorney replies: "He says you don't have the guts to pull the trigger".