Holden Statesmen series 1 with the 5.7 ltr V8, do you know how much oil and engines I went through when it was brand new? In 2 weeks mind you, you can't tell me they are tougher, Aussie throcast US surplus crap. European V8's FTW, take the OZ and US shit and through it out I see OZ and US still persisiting with 20+ year old technology and have a dedicated racing category to support it V8 supercars. F1 Eurpean muscle, now that is a V8. imagine a F1 engine twin turbo.