MBS206

Because we're all mind readers and know how much you want for it...

I'd be looking at diff gears. Especially if it isn't a daily driver and is more a weekender/WSID Warrior. Go to a much shorter diff, re learn the launch on shorter diff, and use more of 4th gear. There will be many gains to be had here.

I'm going to add in that if I were a P Plater, and I wanted to drag, I'd be looking at the EF range of XR6 falcons... I've seen one dead stock, and it ran mid 14 out of the box... Nothing done at all... As for the FG XR6, I honestly think they're "slow", but then again, I went and bought the FG XR6T instead... Although, even it feels slow, it's just amazing watching the speedo fly up so quickly...

Stop picking up Soccer Mums and get back to work on this shit! I want an update!

They are!

As Duncan mentions, it is normal operation for any vehicle. Depending on how good your eye sight is, on cars that run a double filament globe instead of two separate bulbs, you can even see that the filaments change which one is emitting light. On dual globed cars it's super easy.

No no! It was only meant to be new turbos at that stage... Poor drunk man... Although, Drunkman is good to have a beer with too!

Close to 2Tonne? Are you packing chiauhuas as people? Supposedly they're 1750 odd empty, throw 68 litter of fuel in plus the Ther extra weight that ends up in them, and only 2 people with out luggage an you breach 2T... 4 people and luggage is easy 2.2T I reckon. Maybe I should put mine over the weigh station...

Yeah, but my 14.3 comes at the fun leaving pretty much everything for dead at the lights... Lol... The XR6T are economical, quite surprisingly! But I don't think it will be as good as te TD when towing, but the gains I make $$$ wise daily driving will far out weigh the TD benefit when towing. As to that hill Chubbs, it was mrs interesting going up it and having to google what a certain flashing light meant... Turns out we had to stop and let the trans cool down... Least the ford told us it was hot... The same vintage commodore would have just had the gearbox implode...

Just for Harry: One tank of fuel, primarily used around town, with a couple of very short stints on the freeway (Less then 5 mins each trip, about 6 trips, so at 100KM/H that's 50KM worth of freeway, but the main one I use is 80/90 ) It took: 55.81L And I managed: 480.8KM So on those figures, average 11.6L/100KM Or if you still want to claim that it's 5% over read, I would have done 457.9KM, so that still means 12.2L/100KM. It's funny isn't it... My mainly around town figure is LOWER then the claimed combined figure, yet alone the "urban only" figure of 16.7L/100KM... At the end of Feb I'm driving to Melbourne with 2 other mates + Luggage in the car, I'll do my pure highway fuel economy then for you and post it up, you'll just have to wait roughly 6 weeks.

Have you compared it with a properly R&D manifold that doesn't have the dual openings at all? Your comparison is of that inlet being full open VS closed. That doesn't tell us if it is any better then a normal single inlet manifold.

Or duct tape to keep it in?

Don't know about you... But both reece and I beat him in the battles...

XR6T wins on comfy seat. Not hard like most sports cars, lumbar support is good, electrical tilt and height and blah blah blah. Is good... Lol

When i drive my tow car daily... YES!

I'm pondering putting the orange beast in this...

Go and give MDTC a run. If the S13 is well sorted suspension wise, you'll have an absolute ball!

How about this, when I fuel this week, I'll show you my kaya and fuel taken, but do note this tank has been hounded, multiple runs out to redline on full boost. Then when I do my trip to Melbourne down the Hume (with 3 mates in the car luggage and AC) I'll do the same again. And sorry 14.3 is the WORST economy I've seen, but that was a tank of ONLY city driving and not taking it easy.

Also give the Wax and Grease remover from Repco a go, works quite well on most tuff stuff.

Well yes, that's a given, but the argument that was being raised and Pete rebutted, was that purely because a certain vehicle made less power (peak) meant it would use more fuel...

$35 is the cost of the event for a first timer. No more to pay for the event itself. As Eric mentions, you will still need a licence, if you're just getting into things, and mainly are going to try our club days and how most other clubs run, then I would advise you get an AASA licence. $50 from memory and will let you run at most club days like Wakefield Park etc. You will also need a fire extinguisher fitted securely.

mad082, normally you make a bit of sense, but this post, you're looking like a fuel. The amount of power an engine makes does not determine how efficient it is. If that were the case my old Jazz would have drunk the fuel... But it didn't... If you run two engines, that are tuned equally, yet one makes less peak power, when cruising on a freeway, you will use the SAME AMOUNT OF FUEL. If a car takes 50KW to hold it self at cruise, and you drive one car down the freeway that makes peak power of 200KW, and another car that makes peak power of 700KW at the 50KW mark, if they're tuned equally (Engines are equally as efficient, just one gets less air in at the top end) then they'll burn the same fuel at cruise. Remember, you only add the right amount of fuel in, determine by how well the engine can draw air. Take a look at Jap engines for example, back in the mid 90s, and compare them to the mid 90s V8s from America (Compare V8's to V8's) and you will find, that per litre, the Japs actually make more power, why? They get more air in per litre, this means they're more efficient, and better on fuel. Yet the Americans still make more peak power, but they use more fuel. The Commodores/Falcons of today make more power and use less fuel as both companies (And basically every other manufacturer) because they're been forced to lower emmisions, best way to do this, MAKE SOMETHING MORE VOLUMETRICALLY EFFICIENT! By detuning a vehicle (By pulling timing) yes you've lost power, and will use more fuel, but you've also made the engine less efficient in the process. And Harry, mate, if you're not willing to accept what people are getting in real world terms, maybe you should buy one of these cars and go report your findings? Either that or just stop arguing. I'm giving you REAL WORLD FIGURES, not some bull shit that I read on the internet.

In regards to fuel consumption, I get below them all the time. 2008 FG XR6T, pure city driving, stop start everywhere driving on cold maps most of the time, 14.3L/100KM. Now under what is stated, I'm 2.2 L below the claimed city usage, even if I remove 5% kays to make up for your shit about odometers being out (why yes, speedo is, odometer isn't on new cars. You can test this by resetting the odometer driving exactly 5km at those odometer checks and seeing it hits 5kms when you reach the end... ) then my fuel is still 15L/100km... Which is still below stated... Not to mention add around 100 to 150km of freeway driving, sometimes 200kms and my fuel Econ sits at 10L/100 for combined I'm pretty sure that puts me below the claimed figure again, an means I'll drop well into single digits on pure Hume highway driving, but I haven't put a tank of pure freeway through it yet. Oh and my driving isn't grandpa spec either, I actually do come on boost alot, and I use cruise moat of the time which chews more fuel. Maybe all fords have their consumption figures inflated, what do you think Dan? Also, my part in brackets, go test it, or mark out exactly 100kms and drive it. Just make sure you drive right beside the line you marked as changing lanes adds distance to your trip, and I'm sure you took this into account when you worked out your odometer is inaccurate, right?

Highway, Towing or around town? From what I've heard of Cruisers they're more in the 14L/100KM range in diesel. No experience myself, just what I've heard from other owners.

I 100% agree with you about not towing with a light vehicle. But by the time I add me, fuel, a couple of things in the boot, and potentially a passenger, the falcon is knocking on the door of 2T. Trying to get my car down to 1300KG minimum (If not lower), and trailer with spare wheels, and tools, 600KG... Car is still sitting 100KG heavier... Although, I'd rather have a 4WD to tow with, more pracitcal with loading stuff up etc, but no where near as practical as a daily driver.