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Hey All, Just threw another RB30 block into my car after destroying the last one, everythign is being used exactly the same, same sensors etc as before. Problem I now have though, after putting timing belt on (Tensioners are in the "stock" spot, and also where everyone says to put the second one (Drill and tap) as the "spare" spot wasnt machined flat... Anyway, timing is SAVAGELY retarded... Like, way more then a single tooth... As in, I need to throw 50 degrees at it from the ECU + advance it on the CAS, and I'm only getting 12 degrees of timing... We've redone the timing belt, it was all "fine" (Well, inlet was half a tooth retarded, exhaust half a tooth advanced...) I checked the keyway on the CAS... That was all fine... BTW, the only way this car would "start" is with the timing as I said above, but it would only do so at full throttle as the cold start tune is so shit... But when it did, the exhaust got quite hot, quite quickly...

Own a Skyline -> *Tick* A member of SAU -> *Tick* Should be fine mate.

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I'll come weld solid struts in the car foryou Lizzeh... It might not be ideal, but you'll get out there!!! R33 gear doesn't fit at all?

If timing skipped a tooth, all cylinders would drop down equally. Get him to do a dry and wet test, then post results.

Sell to me super cheap then... Need a car for some spares... Is low comp from head or pistons?

Strange question... Have you earthed the radiator? Not just through the mounts either... Full earth cable... PS... It was never really that hot...

If Stu wants a timer, and what not... Lemme know Stu... Duncan, need to have a chatsie with you and Brad one day soon... Re setting car up properly for a certain race category...

Paid and IN!!! Now to get car going...

Replace motor yourself, much cheaper... Just replace with a good "stock" motor...

I think when I went for a run in it, with Duncan pushing it, we were seeing water temps of around 120 degrees... Or maybe that was oil temps... But temp came up... But seemingly the loud pedal just went down further... LOL

Oh man... That makes me giggle as if I were in the car all over again! And I love how you can see more out the back window in the reflection of my helmet then you can out the front!

I'll be checking tomorrow for this day off work...

Neil, sounds like you're barely even revving that thing out except for one of the higher gears on the straight... How hard are you actually revving it, and what does it rev to?

Please please please tell me it was the second last session that you did the 47 second one in!

Go back to physics... Nuff said. If you have one car at 4500RPM at the same time of second car at 9000RPM, making the same power, in identical styled cars (Well hey, we are attempting to compare what Skyline A and Skyline B did, so changing gearbox is just something you can't do in this comparo) then the car turning at 4500RPM is CLEARLY going to leave the other car for dead... It's making double the torque. Double the acceleration (Remember, comparing one skyline to another, you need to be keeping the gears etc the same). But you were close on the highest average, but it's actually the highest average TORQUE that will be the winner. HP wins bragging rights at the pub. Torque wins races... (Torque at the wheels BTW... )

I know there was quite a few hairy moments, and a couple of offs... Then the "beaching"... "I'm beached as bru!"

Which epic fail of Cass'? There were many... I have photos of quite a few of Cass' epic Turn one entries... Just had a quick check then of one of them with Cass entering the infield slightly, water everywhere!

I think the rescue helicopter flying in put a bigger dampener on the day for everyone compared to the actual rain! Not a bad day... Considering I could only spectate... LOL

Take the dead bodies out of the boot... Might shed a few kilos... How do you have a fully stripped car weighing so much? Also, to the dope asking if you double your torque will you accelerate twice as fast... Basically, YES. Torque = Force x Distance. Keep distance constant, double your torque, you had to double the torque. Acceleration = force / mass. From the above formula force just double, your mass has remained the same, therefore your acceleration just doubled. So long as you put the power to the ground (And we weren't debating that, you were debating power figures VS MPH/ET) A car that reads 400KW @ 10 000RPM HAS to be slower at its peak power rating (In terms of acceleration) compared to a car making 400KW @ 5000 RPM when it is at it's peak power rating... The 5000RPM car is pushing down double the torque!

I'm out...

99.9% chance I will NOT be making this day with my Skyline... Bastard just won't start... But just as an aside, anyone who has a timing light, can you take it to OP tomorrow just incase my car does make it there... The timing is sure to be out...

Yo-Yo, should be fine man. Just take it easy the first sess or two and see what it does. My car won't start... Being a prick...

No it's not... Head out to WSID... Maybe a car making 480RWHP at 9000RPM it is... But if it's pushing 480RWHP at 4500RPM... You're making double the torque... IE, it'll accelerate twice as fast... Edit: As to that video of the car "climbing" out of the dyno... I wouldn't even call that movement if you'd seen how mine used to walk around when coming on boost until we worked out how to strap it on perfectly... Car used to walk 1.5Ft sideways, and if it didn't go sideways, it'd climb OVER the front of the roller and nearly touch the front of the dyno... Oh, and the whole time it's doing this it's filling the work shop with tyre smoke... Took us a bit to work it out, but lower the ramp rate, and we actually LOOSENED one of the straps to stop it wheel spinning so much... Still shredded the tyres though in the end... And they were just normal streets!

I'll be heading up to it, not sure on what car yet, but sounds good to do a meetup somewhere and cruise up.

So... Motors in... Now to see if it starts...