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i agree it isn't the place for the debate. But I will agree with the point I think you are actually making, the abuse of alcohol is just as bad as the abuse of steroids. Key word for me is abuse. I would love to do one or two cycles of steroids just to see, but the potential risk on my health (which I would hazard a guess) is probably higher then most other peoples.

I'm not sure you should be comparing the effects of booze to steroids Markos. Maybe ciggs and certainly some illicit drugs (i'd exclude ice and heroine or crack cocaine). But that is a whole other debate which I for one cannot be bothered getting into. Everything that I have read and seen with steroids makes me believe there isn't enough reliable evidence to say how bad steroids are for someone. with that being said about Test Boosters, I have tried my fair share of them, one seemed to make a difference but it was minimal and I was taking a lot of tribulus to get the difference. But it was also during a time where I was training well and hard, so you could probably argue I was training better then normal.

could be so many different reasons it isnt funny. shittier night sleep, just not mentally in the zone, shittier diet, extra stress from work, could have pushed yourself more last week then you did this week, the list goes on

or read? I think Leesh you are over thinking it at the moment, which is putting you off and getting you frustrated. Maybe take a week of deads to destress from them and then try again in another week with more of a confident/aggressive mind frame towards them.

also, as per Trent from PTC's instruction first movement drive up with the legs second movement f**k the bar

that is the argument of IIFYM yes not sure I agree when it comes to saturated fat content to normal fat.

That comment Leesh is in a way brought up in that survey.

this link is an interesting read. Its based off a survey of the type of body that women find attractive, without showing the persons face. http://foxhoundstudio.com/blog/fitness-lifestyle/the-ideal-male-physique-%E2%80%94-what-girls-want-want-guys-want-to-be/

it reminds me of high school when the first grade league players would say "run at me" what will training with you prove? wont prove that back in the day you were or weren't 110kg @ 3% bf it would be the same as me saying back in the day I was nearly a professional mixed martial artist. Prove me wrong

shit is about to get real.

thought as much, still, almost got there, how long do you think until he actually pulls it?

I have no sound, did Odell's lift count or not? Looks like he failed before lockout. Got thrown off by the thumbs up to the crowed. Some massive lifts there though, what comp was that?

3000km apart must make things difficult, but the reunions all the more fun. think you said earlier that your body type is more ectomorph then anything else yeah?

get a room!! what are you weighing in at these days Birdsy?

knew it wouldn't be long before a Birds selfie special made it.

or The Tooth Fairy or The Other Guys

I am always weary about watching a vodeo on how to dead or how to squat becaise tjere are stoll to many questions on who it is actually giving the instructions amongst other things. I guesss it's similar to watching a golf instructional video, just because I watch a pro show you how to chip around the green doesn't mean that the next time I need a good pitch I'll produce it.

i am also guessing that the picture of the guy with 15% bf is very favorable....

you workout at home don't you? smell like a man damit

I haven't tried it so it isnt real............

ive got compression shorts, not the full length things, only wear them for oztag and would not run without them. also my old mma pants that held my cup were compression, fantastic once you get over how gay you look in them, they are sensational.

Hi Markos, My younger brother will be hitting the gym a little more regularly soon, just wondering what type of routine you would recommend? He is 17 years old and somewhere between 90-100kg, has good strength in his legs but no real upper body strength. I have had him in the gym in the past, struggles with chin ups, can not do bent over rows (actually looses balance and falls over). His main goal is to loose weight (which obviously means eating less and will be his biggest challenge) I was thinking something along the lines of Chin ups Squats Bench Military some form of rows dips bar bell curls? he doesnt have the same health issues as I do, just a lazy bastard is all.

fair enough Markos to be honest I have always felt diet has been the thing holding me back the most.

Alright I am always up for advice, body stats: Height 5ft 11 roughly weight 67-69kg measurements: skinny as fark, skinny arms, skinny legs, no real chest, no arse (literally goes straight down), shoulders arent to bad for someone as skinny as me but I wouldnt say I have broad shoulders Ectomorph as they say health issues: possible heart condition, I have a device in my chest as a precautionary. Doctors recommend staying away from anything that elevates my heart BPM past 180 (might just get zapped) and stay away from sprint type training. also back goes out of alignment every now and then and chrio fixes it. Lastly acid reflux, this isnt as bad as it was a few months ago but still gives me grief. current routine: Wide grip chin ups 3 sets to failure Squats 3 x 10 Bench 3 x 8 Cable seated row 3 x 10 Military Press 3 x 8 SLDL 3 x 8 Close grip pull up 3 sets to failure (more concentration on biceps rather then back) dips 3 sets to failure 90 seconds rest in between sets, except for squats and deadlifts they get 2 minutes goals: Increased strength 140kg squat / 100kg bench / 180kg dead Fitness increase in muscle mass (i know diet) health looks overall weight 75-80kg @ about 10% bf so nothing overally special Can only really give myself 3 days at the gym per week due to work and university commitments. Also being a shit gym, it doesn't have full power racks or proper squat racks (i actually have to take 3-5 steps back to be able to squat as low as I can without hitting bars). Diet (worst imaginable): No supplements 3-4 meals a day no breakfast due to reflux very little milk due to reflux no supplements dont count macros as I honestly dont think it matters at this point in time Cheers,