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my car is half machine and half cable ties........ so what of it?

i read years ago on a bob jane brochure that it keeps a more constant pressure than normal air and it does not tend to leak through the tyre wall as easy as normal air does.... i have no idea but thats what the brochure had..... and if its $30 a set i dont see much of a risk either way, people have been using normal atmosphere air for many many years with no probs, untill some cluey bastard figured out a way to sell more of his excess nitrogen supplies. If someone can use a light gas like helium to counteract some of the weight of the wheel that would be of much more benefit to racing..... if you could somehow keep it in the tyre longer because it is such a small molecule.... not to metion the potential flamability factor of a puncture lol. isn't the atmosphere something like 70ish% nitrogen anyway?

hahaha i got a call couple a weeks ago from my bank saying they stopped the trasfer of funds into any acount coz there was a breach or something while i was over seas..... so i'll be attempting to pay again today as i have just arrived home. Lucky i went over with cash and credit and wasn't relying on taking money out of a bank or atm....

lol he says he needs a decent boot, must be a drummer or something i guess. Just get a tight ass $2000-$3000 something, it will get scratched in parking lots taken off road for one reason or another, then afterwards get something decent. for the near future you'll probably have drunk mates riding in it at some time spilling crap all over the car, being douchebags in there, having a lady friend or 2 dirtying up the car (well thats how the first year or 2 was like in my car).then later on get something smaller and sportier when you get sick of being the dezzy driver or sick of the herpes clinic jkz) Up to you depends what you are expecting out of the car? What are you going to use it for?

oh and Merry Christmas online punching bags, hope all is well out there in cyberspace

True and true..... lol at the Amway comment, i thought I was the only one who noticed Amway going on about crap. My warehouses are right next door to amway head quarters in sydney and god there the biggest knobs around. I go to their gloria jeans in there premesis and the guys in the suits (look like $25 ill fitting suits) treat me like crap because I dress up as a bum when i'm at the warehouse. Then i think to my self (Amway is the only thing making money here, not these guys in there cheap suits on a meger wage with stupid smug smiles who keep talking up how they have just bought a house with a mortgage and think there king shit). Modena seems to live a little in a fantasy world sometimes, but one post he put up a while ago sticks in my mind when i go to amway gloria jeans.... he said something along the lines of "if you work for somebody else on a wage, you will never get rich, you will just be comfortable at best" which is mostly true, guess the smug amway kids havent listened to Modena and his wisdom

lol me thinks to looks at yours links at the bottoms of yours posts i thinks

because Albert (sheng) isn't bothered to organise a Hills cruise anymore..... guess no one else is either including me lol

yeah i'll admit those are very slim wins at best but still possible, but the quote on the RTA website is undisputed and will = a win a day in the courts. That is definately misleading. That is a spot where the RTA is responding to a question, if the sign isn't there for safty cameras then you wont get finned. And the guidelines will overide the law if in this instance someone asks the RTA a question (which they have on the link i posted) and then they respond the way they have saying. I don't get why you think it won't be accepted by the courts. The law says one thing, but the NSW RTA says a complete different thing that ALL saftey cameras WILL have a sign. Have a look at the link and you will see where the discrepency is, it is not a guide line, guidelines NEVER have the direct words YES or WILL. It is a direct responce and should be treated as such. If the RTA said "The RTA may provide signs but is not bound to do so by law" then there is no argument, but the fact is they didn't and if you read the RTA's pages about safety cameras you are told there WILL be signage, they never state they do not have to do it. Also I haven't read the road rules (2008) nor am I going to because this is just an online discussion and its Christmas, but Safety Cameras and Fixed Speed cameras are not the same thing, they only share the same fine system. You cannot use the fixed speed camera wording to explain the rules for the safety camera, they are different enough to call for different signage so they are not the same. Oh and in your reply the term you are looking for is "precident law", no this isn't a precident case, but yes all precident cases first started off as virgin cases at some point in time. Anyway RTA WILL have signs for these things anyway, I really doubt they will put a camera up without signs and if they do and they don't clarify the discrepency the drivers who get done without signs ill have a fighting chance. And these things are going to rake in so much $$$ compared to the fixed speed cameras it isn't funny. The becroft/pennant hils road intersection flashed 7 times in about 2 minutes of sitting there waiting for the lights to change. I havent seen so much flash even when Paris Hilton was last in syd. Merry Christmass SAUers

Lets not forget that the speed cameras and the saftey cameras are not the same thing, and thus they will not be governed by the same laws.... http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/speed...amera_faqs.html Will signage be installed warning motorists of the approaching cameras? Yes there will be a sign warning motorists on the approach to safety cameras. The sign will have the text “SAFETY CAMERA AHEAD”, explaining that the main function of the new cameras is to improve the safety of the intersection – by reducing crashes caused by speeding and drivers running red-lights. This is basically a contract between the RTA and any driver who is driving on NSW roads, Because the RTA website says "YES there will be a sign warning....." that is all you need, even if the law doesn't require a sign because the Roads and Traffic Authority said there WILL be a sign.

its not a guide line, thats a bad choice of words from my behalf, its a code of conduct by the RTA, and any "reasonable person" would assume that if that is in the NSW RTA code of conduct, then they would put a sign at every speed camera, even though the law says it doesn't have to. If the court agrees (and in NSW they have in the past) that any reasonable person would think the same way, then your off the hook, only if there is no sign there. I know where your comming from, the law is the law, but some of the time there are ways around the law and thats why lawyers can charge like wounded bulls, also thats why now the RTA is so pedantic about fixed speed camera signage. The only reason i originally brought this up was because it sounded like some people had either missed seeing the sign of the new "safety camera" or they weren't present at the time. There is another angle for fighting an absent sign is trying to proove you were misslead by the RTA, if they are the Road and Traffic Authority (meaning the roads and substituaries are under their controll), basically what they say can be seen as law and if they put in their website (which they have) that they will put a sign for every new so called "safety camera" and then they don't, and you recieve a fine for speeding or going through a red light, you can argue that point aswell and as you can see that they should not have given the fine after misleading the general public. (this hasn't been argued yet because its only new in NSW, but if they forget a sign and a cluey motorist gets done for it, we will see what happens) Basically the law can say what it likes, but their are other factors and arguments that can make the law invalid depending on the situation. Other than that only way out of the fine is to say someone else was driving and give them the fine (they cannot say who was driving, even if they look at the camera image and see your face), prove that the camera is inacurate, hope that its out of its recommended calibration period, or prove that its not your car (ie stolen/coppied plates, if its happened in a different city and you can prove that the car was in a different city at the same time, but at the end of the day its cheaper to cop the fine and only worth fighting if your sure you will win or your about to loose your lisence.

lol this is just an online forum, not a bloody uni essay or something

This is why beerbaron is the admin/moderator lol

The number plate is worth more than the car when you consider what GTR enthusiasts would pay for the plate

spotted the Google earth astra twice today, red p plates.... I recon thats such a bludge of a job.... drove past it this morning at catle towers, i hope it was recording coz i waved at it, giving the skyline drivers a bad name lol then it drove past my house, i tried to run outside and wave again to try and play a trick on people being at 2 places at the same time.... dunno if it will work though, hope they have improved the camera quality to the ones they used in europe

yeah any engine modification is illegal for p platers unless written consent has been given

there are ways in NSW to get exemptions while your on Green P's only..... friend of mine did it only recently, cost him under $50 for the exemption. They gave it to him because he was one of the few who went through their reds without any hassel. I'll send him this thread and see if he contributes to this.

i guess some people only read every 2nd post.... there is a requirement for the sign in nsw by RTA guidlines, even though its not required by law

ahh thats the day after Tiesto, guess i'll be hung over...

This will be interesting to everyone. the road rules do not require a sign to be placed warning motorists of fixed speed cameras or safty cameras. But the RTA (who governs these cameras) has set in their own code of conduct (which is basically their own law guiding the way they govern their organisation and can be enforced in the courts) states that although the Australian road rules do not require a sign, the NSW RTA Will supply one sign warning motorists of a fixed Safety camera that reads "Safety Camera Ahead" and all traditional fixed speed cameras in the RTA governing district will have 3 warning signs before aproaching a fixed speed camera, all 3 will state the speed limmit. So basically you are correct in saying the Law doesnt say anything about speed cameras needing signs, but if you look closer the local RTA rules within NSW will overide it (unless a court says otherwise) So yes there has to be a sign in NSW or you can get out of it even though the road rules doesn't say so. "Will signage be installed warning motorists of the approaching cameras? Yes there will be a sign warning motorists on the approach to safety cameras. The sign will have the text “SAFETY CAMERA AHEAD”, explaining that the main function of the new cameras is to improve the safety of the intersection – by reducing crashes caused by speeding and drivers running red-lights." Basically once the signs are up, you can get finned and have no contest about appealing the fine aslong as the infringement happens in NSW, no other state that i'm aware of is obliged to put up a sign

No i haven't read them lately but when i last got done (nearly 3 years ago) back then all FIXED speed cameras in NSW had to have 3 warning signs before hand. Victoria and SA didn't need to have any warnings, but NSW did. Redlight cameras have never needed a sign. Ive always assumed they still need the warning signs because new dedicated fixed speed cameras are still being installed with 3 warning signs, I can't see why they would change the practice now, especially when they still catch people speeding even with the warning signs... But who cares, if your running a red your an idiot anyway, the speed thing is gay but i can understand the reason for it. Victoria has had the redlight/speed camera for many years already

Paid, faxing forms soonish

tell him to get a mans car lol jkz. Nah this is posted in the wrong section, can a mod move it to car audio section please?

yeah ive noticed that one aswell going off randomly, i have noticed they have upgraded to a new camera style and it keeps on going off, but i didnt see any signs and im pretty sure (unless the laws have changed) speed cameras need to have 3 signs for fixed, one sign for a set up speed camera and no signs for moving speed cameras like radar ect... But they tend to keep tinkering with it everytime i'm there so i'm not sure if its operational there anyway.... YET

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